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Smitty in CT
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They used to be junk, then Mossberg started putting them on their shotguns, They were basically re-engineered to be able to survive 10 years on a shotgun (that's what Mossberg's warranty is)
I don't know what ATI's warranty is, but if it's original equipment on a Mossberg it get's the full 10 years....
I don't know about the ones the sell for the Remmy's, I have an older 20GA Wingmaster that would be a shame to put a colapsible stock on.
Smitty
I don't know what ATI's warranty is, but if it's original equipment on a Mossberg it get's the full 10 years....
I don't know about the ones the sell for the Remmy's, I have an older 20GA Wingmaster that would be a shame to put a colapsible stock on.
Smitty
Its still junk, I dont care what the warranty is. I can guarantee ATI didnt redesign anything. Mossberg most likely did a cost analysis, and found that it would be cheaper for them to buy junk stocks and replace them under warranty, then to buy quality in the first place. Since few folks actually use their guns, the number of failed pieces will be comparitvely low. Furthermore, deduct the number of folks who buy a Mossberg with this stock and discver they suck and replace them on their own with something quality, and the number returned gets even lower.
IMO, a colapsible stock was a cure for the buffer tube on an AR15, and is a poor choice on anything else. Spend the money, and get the SPeedfeed that fits you correctly. If you must have a collapsible stock on a shotgun, get a Mesa or CavArms adapter, and do it the right way.
IMO, a colapsible stock was a cure for the buffer tube on an AR15, and is a poor choice on anything else. Spend the money, and get the SPeedfeed that fits you correctly. If you must have a collapsible stock on a shotgun, get a Mesa or CavArms adapter, and do it the right way.
The Knoxx is definitely high quality. I personally have absolutely no use for the recoil reducing features, but do find no fault with the execution of the piece. One must decide if the moving parts and such of the recoil reduction stuff is worth the cost. If so, the Knoxx is defintely a piece worth buying. For me, its not.
hpg
Oops! Can't let that one go unanswered. The SpecOps is not held together with springs anymore than a 1911 pistol is held together with springs. The slide on the SpecOps rides in a channel or rail, just like a semi-auto pistol slide does and it is shrouded for additional safety. hpg, Have you fired a shotgun equipped with a SpecOps Stock? Not everyone likes them but most do...after they try it.
TexiCali Slim
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Hpg
I checked on they're website and they have a unconditional lifetime gaurentee on they're stocks http://www.atigunstocks.com/ati-warranty.html
I have allways wanted one but never coughed up the $$ for it, from what I reserched theyre pretty solid.
PS: If you really want to get a rise out of Lilysdad tell him its going on a Winchester 1300
I checked on they're website and they have a unconditional lifetime gaurentee on they're stocks http://www.atigunstocks.com/ati-warranty.html
I have allways wanted one but never coughed up the $$ for it, from what I reserched theyre pretty solid.
PS: If you really want to get a rise out of Lilysdad tell him its going on a Winchester 1300
TexiCali Slim
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http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=156337&highlight=ati
I did read some more reviews online but dont care to make a Bibliography.
I have not shot with it just fondled it and sized it up with my shotgun (1300 Defender
) at the gunshop.
With that said, HPG with the reviews I have read saying they were solid, they also said they kick like a mule. I would recommend at finding a way to buffer the recoil because what I remember that was a main complaint on these things.
I did read some more reviews online but dont care to make a Bibliography.
I have not shot with it just fondled it and sized it up with my shotgun (1300 Defender
) at the gunshop. With that said, HPG with the reviews I have read saying they were solid, they also said they kick like a mule. I would recommend at finding a way to buffer the recoil because what I remember that was a main complaint on these things.
Yeah, sounds like fantastic stuff. UI guess for those folks who want one for the CDI factor, it will dofine. However, for those who actually use their shotguns outside the square range, the quality offered by ATI is supremely lacking in any and every tiem they make.
As for the 1300, they are a damn fine birdgun.
Smokin Joe
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LD, how is it exactly that the butt stock is not good? like, its just a piece of something, like how the woodem stocks are just a piece of wood..
how is it bad ?
how is it bad ?
Stretchman
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Do the Cav Arms and the Mesa Tac have the buffer tubes inside the stock? If they don't come with, can you install one?
Smokin Joe
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how do you know this ?
I have seen far too many items made by ATI fail on the square range. If they fail there, they WILL fail in the real world. I can guarantee you that I would break, bend, or otherwise damage this stock in my day-in day-out activities.
If you want a quality collapsible, get a Mesa or CavArms. There is a reason the ATI cost 50 bucks, and the Mesa coats 150. Quality costs money.
If you want a quality collapsible, get a Mesa or CavArms. There is a reason the ATI cost 50 bucks, and the Mesa coats 150. Quality costs money.
Smokin Joe
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OK lilydad, how about this stock here ? it appears to be solid piece with no moving parts, the literature says
"Made in the USA of black, glass-filled nylon it is virtually indestructible. "
sounds pretty tough to me... would this be bad also even if it is just one hunk of plastic ? and if this sucks then why is one hunk of wood considered good ?
I just want to learn.
"Made in the USA of black, glass-filled nylon it is virtually indestructible. "
sounds pretty tough to me... would this be bad also even if it is just one hunk of plastic ? and if this sucks then why is one hunk of wood considered good ?
I just want to learn.
Yes, that stock is just as poorly built. It uses a cheap plastic, and is universal in fit, utilizing adapters to mate the stock to the intended platform. Again, there is a reason the stock is so much cheaper than others, such as SpeedFeed. Ivs said it more then once in this thread, and I will continue to do so. Quality is not cheap. However, the price dfference between the ATI stuff and quality fixed stocks such as SpeedFeed is not that great. A nice SpeedFeed can be had for around 70 bucks.
If you want an ATI, go for it. However, it is the lowest of low quality, and the price proves this. Universal fit is your second clue. Each stock must be enginerred for the intended weapon it is to be bolted to. How many reputable compnaies that you know of, such as SpeedFeed, Mesa, Knoxx, Hogue, CavArms, etc make universal shotgun stocks? None, that exactly how many do. It is a piss-poor way of making things, and serves only those who think they look cool.
If you want a shotgun to impress your buddies, and look cool at the range, then ATI is right up your alley. If you want servicable equipment, get the right stuff. Nothing ATI makes is worth the price it costs. Nothing.
If you want an ATI, go for it. However, it is the lowest of low quality, and the price proves this. Universal fit is your second clue. Each stock must be enginerred for the intended weapon it is to be bolted to. How many reputable compnaies that you know of, such as SpeedFeed, Mesa, Knoxx, Hogue, CavArms, etc make universal shotgun stocks? None, that exactly how many do. It is a piss-poor way of making things, and serves only those who think they look cool.
If you want a shotgun to impress your buddies, and look cool at the range, then ATI is right up your alley. If you want servicable equipment, get the right stuff. Nothing ATI makes is worth the price it costs. Nothing.