Accuracy shooting .38 from .357 revolver


I have charted my results from shooting .38 specials out of 32 different .357 magnum guns. 21 of these guns produced 5 or 6 round single hole groups (shown by ~/~*) at a distance of 15 yards. I have found that most guns are ammo sensitive to both bullet weight and velocity more than barrel length or gun weight.
Guns that did not like a particular brand/weight .38 special ammo shot as much as 4" off point of aim (row 34 column D).

Mark
 
However, in practice I use the very same cast lead bullets in both, seated the same distance. So in my ammo, there is a 0.10 difference in the OAL.
Of course. And you could get a 0.10" difference in OAL in just about any revolver cartridge you wanted without switching to a different caliber just by playing with the seating depth.

I guess what I'm saying is that:

1. The quintessential accuracy round in the .38spl is the flush seated wadcutter which has a longer jump to the throat/rifling than a round loaded with a conventional bullet. The jump doesn't seem to hurt accuracy.

2. The two rounds, can differ in terms of OAL, but in practice, they are often loaded to virtually identical OAL. In my experience, that is commonly the case with factory ammunition. If one wants to assess the relative accuracy of the two rounds and try to correlate it to bullet jump, one needs to insure that there really is a significant bullet jump difference in the two particular loadings being checked. Since that's rarely even noticed/mentioned with regard to this topic, the likelihood is that any anecdotal evidence relating to .38spl having poorer accuracy than .357Mag in the same revolver is probably not related to bullet jump. That's because the rounds likely weren't even checked for bullet jump difference since everyone "knows" that the .38spl is a shorter round.

I'll throw in a third that I didn't mention earlier. While it's common to find reloaders talking about tailoring the seating depth of rifle rounds for maximum accuracy, finding a similar discussion relating to pistol rounds is not that easy. I think the primary reason is that there are too many other variables that affect revolver accuracy more significantly to make seating depth experiments worthwhile.

In short, any way you cut it, I think it's going to be difficult to make a case for bullet jump being a significant contributor to revolver accuracy in the vast majority of cases.
 
Thanks for all the replies. Seems the consensus is that theoretically it makes a difference, but lots of other factors have a bigger influence and unless you are a competition shooter of the highest level, probably not going to notice.
 
Years ago, a custom PPC pistol was made with a cylinder cut short enough to only accept 38 wadcutters. As I remember the forcing cone was extended to meet the end of the cylinder. I think the appeal was more that the lighter cylinder improved the double action pull rather than the increased accuracy. The combination never became widely popular. Looking at the actual 50 yards groups custom .357 revolvers have made with 38 wadcutters it is hard to see how there is much room for improvement.

There was also a now-defunct cartridge which had a case length approximately the same as a .357 Maximum, but was only loaded with wadcutter bullets and loaded to .38 Special levels. It was for use in .38 Special revolvers with their cylinders bored straight through in the thought that minimizing any possible jump to the forcing cone would improve accuracy. Since I've only ever seen pictures of such an animal in older books (and those were speaking about it in the past tense), my guess is that it was found to be more trouble than it was worth long ago.
 
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