About to buy a Glock 27

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Rickmeister

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If there is any reason you believe I shouldn't buy a Glock 27, speak now or forever keep your silence ;)

In another post, I asked the collective TFL wisdom for opinions regarding the best compact gun in .40 S&W, and an overwhelming number responded with the following makes:

H&K USP40 Compact
Glock 27
Kahr MK40

Well, I have since tried all three, and must say that I was positively impressed by each and every one of them. After careful consideration, however, I find myself more in favor of the G27. Then again, there are certain rumors out there that make it less appealing than I might have hoped (e.g., its ability to fire out of battery, occasionally resulting in an exploded case.)

How true are these rumors? Is the G27 really a "pipe bomb" waiting to happen? If I ever---hopefully never---have to use it in self defense, will I blow my hand off to the delight of my assailant? :eek:

Better start practicing with my left :D
 
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Rick...

My G27 is my favorite pistol. Not one single malfunction since I took it out of the box. (And it's been three years!) A lot of the LEO's around here use them as their back up/off duty pistol. As a matter of fact, it was a LEO that told me about Federal 135gr "PD" Hydra-Shocks. I shoot best with those. Although a lot of owners prefer heavier bullets. I have no fears that my G27 is going to blow up in my hand. Any pistol can "blow up", however with good maintenance, your new G27 will out-live you.

KR
 
glock 27

of all the firearms i own,it's the only one i've sold!
would not own another,well for that fact,any glock!
just my $.02.
 
Great CCW gun. I currently carry a G30 but if I went smaller I would choose the G27. A lot of gun in a small package.
 
Some facts about Glock pistols:

All Glocks can fire out of battery. You can test this yourself with an unloaded pistol and your hand pulling back the slide a bit. You can pull the trigger all the way back til the barrel starts to tilt down.

.40 Glocks have the worst reputation for KaBooms of the available calibers. .40 has one of the worst shapes for reliable feeding (fat, short, truncated cone bullet with steep ogive).

9mm Glocks have had virtually zero KaBooms (maybe even actually zero). 9mm is the best feeding straight walled auto cartridge. Not only does it have a long tapered ogive but the case is actually tapered as well.

Here's the opinion: Kabooms are caused largely by feed ramp and chambering friction slowing down the slide just enough to prevent it going into full battery. This would explain why they happen more often with reloads, but still do happen with factory ammo.

Are you certain a 26 loaded with 11 rounds of Speer or Corbon +P is not enough gun? If that's the case, maybe the nice feed characterists of the bottlenecked .357 Sig in a 33 would be to your liking.
 
Get the G27 and then add the G33 Barrel and you can have two guns in one. The G27 is a great little gun. I think you hear of more Kbooms with the Glock because there are so many of them sold. If it was such a big deal, would so many LEO's be carrying Glock 40's. IMHO, I don't think so.
 
I owned a 27 a while back. Was a very good concealed carry piece. Traded it in for a G23, the grip on the 27 was just too small for me!
 
Get the G27 and don't listen to all the nay-sayers. For every person who had a KB, you can find 10,000 that have not had one.

Other guns and other calibers have them also, not just Glock 40's and it is usually due to bad ammo (double charges,loaded brass too many times, OAL too short etc), not the weapon.

People want you to believe Glocks are the Boogie Man.

If there was any real evidence that Glocks or 40 Glocks were more dangerous than other weapons why aren't they being sued? Why arent they banned in the US? Ever think of that?
 
Some facts about glock pistols.

1. There the best sidearms available in the following calibers 9mm,357 sig, 40 sw, 10mm, 45 auto.

2. The 40 is a good rounds but the 357 sig is better as far as accuracy goes and power is about equal with the best loads.

3. Glocks are used by 60 to 70% of LEO's for a reason. Their great.

IF you get a 27 you will not be disappointed.
PAT
 
Some facts about glock pistols.
1. There (sic) the best sidearms available in the following calibers 9mm,357 sig, 40 sw, 10mm, 45 auto.
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Horse manure.

A broad generalization from one of the more prominent generalizers on this board.

If you don't include a SIG in your determination, you're not doing your homework.

You want a small pistol in a smooooooking caliber for your final selection?

Be sure and shoot the SIG P239 in .357SIG and/or .40Auto...a real compact without that horrible, oh-so-expensive-to-change grip frame and crunchenticker trigger.
 
Everyone is focusing on the Glock. I have a G23 and love it. The only reason to go any smaller for me is to fit the gun in an ankle holster, but it just seems a little thick for this. Instead, I generally carry a Kel-Tec P11, J-frame, or a PPK in an ankle holster.

I also have a USPc (though in 9mm), and it is substantially bigger. No problem if you want to carry on your waist. In fact, the USPc is closer in size to the G23.

Don't know much about the Kahrs, and have never shot one. However, I've heard good things about them.

My advice is to get the biggest gun you will carry often. It's generally better to carry a full sized gun than a super mini compact, however, a .22 short in your pocket is better than a .50AE at home.
 
Well, I'll be the naysayer, then. I owned a G-27 and finally sold it after experiencing many reliability problems with it. The most significant problem was that it would misfire about every 20-30 rounds, that is, the primer would be struck, but the firing pin was not strong enough to set off the primer. I struggled with this for three years, but never resolved it.

In fairness, it may have been me with the problem, not so much the gun. I'm not a mall ninja and I'm willing to admit that it may have been my problem more than the gun's. I found myself fatiguing easily with this gun, because it's difficult to hang onto and to maintain a consistent grip with. It's my theory that this may have led to me limp-wristing the gun and causing it to go slightly out of battery, resulting in the misfires. It is also my theory that you're packing a lot of power in a little tiny gun and you'd better be willing to practice with it and shoot it a lot to develop and maintain proficiency with it. It's not like picking up a J-frame and pulling the trigger. Your grip must be consistent and you must bear down on the gun to ensure it can operate against your grip.

JMHO-I won't get another one, as I don't trust the lack of reliability in my case, whether due to me or to the gun.
 
For those who DO like the way the G27 performs it is one of the best CCW packages available. There are more compact guns but the G27 is the only subcompact I would feel comfortable as a Primary Piece. Plenty of rounds, accurate, and good controllability (with practice its very possible)

Personally, I find the G27 is easier to handle than any J-frame. If the .40 is too much the G26 in 9mm is also a good choice. I'd feel well armed with either.

Shoot factory and join all of us Glock fans (LEO's included) who shoot worry free.
 
Regarding a previous posters suggestion--why not a G26? Same package but IMO much easier to shoot. Put a Handall on my mine and it feels secure in my hand shooting Gold Dot +p's.

Can't speak to the 27 but the 26 has been ultra reliable; short trigger pull and reset--this is one design that work well. Could be a bit thinner but nothing is perfect. As others have posted, the Glock 9 has never been a topic of discussion in the KB area.
 
I thought I'd make a couple of comments about my search for a concealed carry handgun.

I was a LEO back when LEO's were required to carry a double action revolver PERIOD! When I left police work to get a job that paid money Glock 9mm's were just coming into use.

Fast forward several years... I decided to start carrying concealed all the time again. My old S&W Model 36 was showing its age and I was tired of trying to hide its bulky 5-shot cylinder so I decided it was time to try a semi-auto. Naturally the only choice was a Glock 9mm.

I went to Glock's website to see what was out there and learned about the existance of .40 S&W. (Which is currently outselling 9mm by about 2:1 to police agencies.) Because the gun was for carry I was looking at the G-27 and the G-23. I liked the size of the G-27 but I didn't like the two-finger grip, especially with the hotter (than 9mm) load. Because of the longer grip I was going to get the G-23. In fact I may still get one someday.

In doing a web search for info on Glocks (including the infamous kB's) I ran across a story that refered to Kahr (?) as an "all-steel Glock." I'd never heard of Kahr so I started checking up on them and found almost all good reports. This was before the "P" models were introduced BTW. (My favorite quote from a gun shop owner who didn't carry Kahrs, "I've never heard of them. They're a cheap gun!") :rolleyes: Because of the barrel geometry the K series guns had a three-finger grip in a G-27 sized package! The MK's are even smaller but you're back to a two-finger grip again.

Finally I found a gun shop that not only carried them, they had a whole bunch in stock because they had just taken on the brand. In fact, they had only been a Kahr dealer for a few days and hadn't yet sold one. So when the owner offered me my choice of any Kahr in stock for $480 (all the K-9/40 models, MK-9, K-40 Covert) I walked out of there with a K-40 Elite 98. While dealer cost on the other models was within a few dollars of each other, he didn't realize until he sold mine that the Elites cost him about $50 higher. :D

Anyway, I love mine. (Part of that might be that the Elite's trigger pull is 2/3's as long as the standard models.) I carry it in a Milt Sparks Versa-Max II holster that doesn't even let it wiggle (I don't notice the weight of a gun, what I notice is it flopping around) and I can tuck a shirt in over the holster.

So, even with setting out to buy a Glock, I wound up with a Kahr. Whooda thunkit? Glock or Kahr, I really don't think you can go wrong.

Tom
 
I never leave home without my 27! I have never had a misfire or hangup of anykind with it. I can carry it concealed with ease and I don't have to worry about it rusting from sweat or rain or condensation if it's left in the console of my truck. I had a hard time deciding between the 26 and 27 but I finally chose the .40 and I am very happy with it.
 
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