About to be first time owner...advice?

First gun purchase, looking for a 9mm sub-compact.

Better to go for something larger for ones first gun. IMHO & YMMV.

I understand that striker fired is preferred over hammer fired but that hammer fired is safer...true?

Some prefer striker fired, true. "Striker vs. hammer" is way, way down the list of things I worry about.

I have it narrowed down to a Ruger LC9 or LC9s, Beretta Nano or Pico. One goal is to stay under $500 so I'm ruling out a Sig or S&W.

"Under $500" does not rule out a S&W Shield.

Nor an XDS.

Lots of options in that price range.

I'm liking the new Glock 43 but again....do I want striker fired?

Again, I think the little tiny guns are not a good choice, for a first gun.
 
I understand that striker fired is preferred over hammer fired but that hammer fired is safer...true?

Not true. It's really a matter of preference. However, I personally believe hammer fired are safer than striker fired. For me, it's just too easy to accidentally pull that trigger on a striker fired gun with one in the chamber than with a hammer fired gun.
 
Until you know how to shoot, how can you possibly know what gun to buy?
Kind of like trying to choose a motorcycle without knowing how to ride.
Learn first, then choose.
Betcha' your choice will be quite different after taking lessons.
Think of how much money you will save, too.
And how much safer all the rest of us will be. :)
 
Until you know how to shoot, how can you possibly know what gun to buy?
Kind of like trying to choose a motorcycle without knowing how to ride.
Learn first, then choose.
Betcha' your choice will be quite different after taking lessons.
Think of how much money you will save, too.
And how much safer all the rest of us will be.

I'm far from an expert on the subject, but I have to disagree with this. If you buy a $400 gun, you can probably sell it barely used for what? $300-350? I think you can get a pretty good idea of what gun you'd like to own if you can just weight the pros & cons, & most importantly hold each of them at a LGS.

I agree you should at least have some training so you're comfortable handling a firearm, but to rent each gun you're considering would be pretty costly.
 
Trying different brands is mentioned because most places have at least one range in the area that rents guns (there are three within 5 minutes of my place). All of those ranges charge a fee of $10-20, but you can swap the handungs out for a different one at no additional charge. You can buy something based on how it feels, but you can't walk into a gun shop and "test drive" a brand new handgun. If you don't have the option to rent guns, then of course your options will be more limited.

Nothing is worse in terms of gun shopping than buying something you are unhappy with. Given that most shops will not even give 50% of the value on a trade, the only way to come close to breaking even is through a private sale. I've sold a few guns that way, but I understand those who would not want to go that route. In the grand scheme of things, the $400 will be small compared to the amount of ammo a somewhat regular shooter will fire in a year. I go to the range pretty often, and generally leave there $60-$80 poorer.

But I would never tell someone to buy x gun over y if they have shot (and enjoyed) their choice. Everyone is different. Most people on this post were stating other options as well, and there is nothing wrong with being informed.
 
I really like the suggestion everyone is making about taking a class. I just took a CCW class this past weekend because I had recently moved to a new state there were tons of new people there that never fired a gun. The first 4 hours of the course you learned about the different kinds of pistols and revolvers and how to use each. Then you got to go to the range and fire them. Definitely something I will recommend to each newbie from now on as I saw how valuable it can be.

As for a gun, others are right, something too small will turn you off. You need to learn how to shoot first. Those small guns are really uncomfortable and awkward and Ive been shooting handguns my whole life. If you are concerned about a safety I would definitely recommend the SW Shield. I know you said no SW but the thing is, with the extended mag it feels like a full size gun so it would be good learn on. Then when you are ready to conceal you have a perfect size CCW gun that has a safety. Its also one of the best CCW guns on the market in 9mm. I personally carry a glock 26 but would have no problem carrying a shield or revolver.

When I was a kid I learned to shoot with a 22 revolver then when I was older I bought a 357. Revolvers are perfect for learning. I was looking to buy a smaller carry gun for my pocket like one of the mouse guns but after firing them and seeing their reliability issues I may get a SW 642 pocket revolver for my next gun. I personally wouldnt worry about a safety, the safety is your finger. take a class and see what your instructor tells you - they will say the same thing.
 
As advised above

- Do go to a rental range if at all possible and get a feel for several options.

- Don't go for a subcompact/pocketpistol as 1st weapon. Handguns are hard enuf to handle competently ...and small guns even harder

- Jury's Out on striker vs exposed hammer/safety. Both have advantages/drawbacks
...[People will hate me, but I recommend revolvers/S&W Mdl-19 as a first handgun] ;)

- Do go to a Basic pistol course [and the NRA's is the standard I judge others by for breadth & depth -- both handling and when to shoot/not shoot]




- Last... do consider a full size "Glock-17-like" to start. Much easier to handle, and not that much more challenge to carry.
 
Well of course you should go shoot as many guns as you can if you can do it for a $10 flat fee. I have never once been in a single shop where you can rent 4 guns for $10-20 as someone else in this thread mentioned. (there aren't any here in central Iowa)

I just think there are other ways to make an informed decision about which gun to buy, that don't require you to spend $100 on rental & ammo charges. Especially when the gun you are looking to purchase will only cost $400.

It's also worth noting that this is his FIRST gun purchase, not his last. If this one isn't absolutely perfect for him, he can either sell it later or just keep it & add more to his collection.
 
Thanks again for all the advise, since most of you agree that I should purchase a full size, that's what I targeted at my local dealer. I found the Beretta PX4 Storm to be the best fit and it has the safety features I'm looking for. Plus he'll sell it to me for $425 which I think is a good deal.
 
Sounds like a rosie deal if you have $425 and want a px4 storm. If not an exact match i personally find the s&w m&p or XD9 a better gun at that price point, but what do i know.

I do it all wrong. I carry a 1911 and my hd/idpa gun is an xd45 tactical.

I find that guns that sell well, do so for a reason. Glocks sell about the best.
 
Thanks again for all the advise, since most of you agree that I should purchase a full size, that's what I targeted at my local dealer. I found the Beretta PX4 Storm to be the best fit and it has the safety features I'm looking for.

That's a good platform to start with if you take the time to train with the Double Action pull, and as an added benefit Beretta makes them in a few different sizes (should you want something smaller on down the road as well).

Well of course you should go shoot as many guns as you can if you can do it for a $10 flat fee. I have never once been in a single shop where you can rent 4 guns for $10-20 as someone else in this thread mentioned. (there aren't any here in central Iowa)

Yeah I understand that is not feasible everywhere, but I have been able to find a range lIke that in most of the state's I've lived in (Illinois, Ohio, Virginia). Two weeks ago I got a good deal on ammo from the store and shot a P320, G19, P30, VP9, and an XDs for $60 (went with a friend and each paid $60). It was super cheap ammo and one case got stuck in the Sig, but we had no other issues after that. Next time I think I'm gonna have my friend try some .45's, as he has only shot 9mm and .38 up to this point.

I only mentioned that because not every person is aware of resources that may/may not be available. That particular range doesn't go out of there way to advertise swaps, you just have to ask though. They will even let you test a used model that you're interested in, you just have to pay for ammo.
 
Thanks again for all the advise, since most of you agree that I should purchase a full size, that's what I targeted at my local dealer. I found the Beretta PX4 Storm to be the best fit and it has the safety features I'm looking for. Plus he'll sell it to me for $425 which I think is a good deal.

Good to see you took that advice. Shooting a small gun can be very discouraging.

Remember this every time you shoot: Front sight. Front sight. Front sight.

Watch some videos like this one and get into good habits early on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIsZCam5jmA
 
Until you know how to shoot, how can you possibly know what gun to buy?
Kind of like trying to choose a motorcycle without knowing how to ride.

Ha! I bought my first revolver (gun) before I knew how to shoot it. I bought my first motorcycle before I knew how to ride it! Not the smartest things I did in my youth, but boy did I have fun doing it! I wouldn't trade these two experiences for anything.:)
 
Thanks again for all the advise, since most of you agree that I should purchase a full size, that's what I targeted at my local dealer. I found the Beretta PX4 Storm to be the best fit and it has the safety features I'm looking for. Plus he'll sell it to me for $425 which I think is a good deal.

I think you made a good choice. What caliber and what model did you buy?

I'm guessing you got a 9mm. The PX4 comes in three different flavors:

The "D" model is a double action only (DAO) pistol with a bobbed hammer (no external hammer spur) and no manual safety.

The "G" model is a double action/single action (DA/SA) with an external decocker lever but no manual safety.

The "F" model is a DA/SA pistol with an external manual safety that also functions as a decocker.

The most commonly sold model is the "F". It is possible to convert an F model to a G model without buying additional parts should you choose to do this.

Although many will disagree I think that either a DAO or DA/SA pistol is a safer choice for many first time pistol owners than either a single action only (SAO) or striker-fired pistol without a manual safety. The disadvantage of a DA/SA pistol (for some) is the need to master the transition between the first double action shot and the subsequent single action shot(s). This takes practice for most shooters. One way to do this is to fire two shots at a time, the first DA and the second SA, then decock and repeat. Ernest Langdon is an expert Beretta shooter and has a series of three videos with tips on shooting a DA/SA pistol that are worth watching. Here is the first:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsoX26OhDCY

I own two Beretta Cougars (9mm DAO and .40 cal DA/SA) and one Stoeger Cougar (.45 cal DA/SA). The Cougars were predecessors of the PX4 Storm and share the same rotary barrel lock up mechanism. They are all soft-shooting and quite accurate.

I would suggest you field strip and lubricate your pistol before shooting it. With many new pistols the lubrication is dried out from storage. Your owner's manual will give you the basics on how to field strip, lubricate, and reassemble your pistol but here is a blog entry with much more detail and better photographs:

http://blog.beretta.com/how-to-clean-your-beretta-px4

The blog and the manual suggest using gun oil on all lubrication points. I actually prefer using grease on the bearing surfaces on the interior slide that the barrel rotates on, the double cam and locking lugs on the barrel exterior, the tooth on the central block that mates with the barrel double cam, and the rails that mate the slide with the frame. Don't over-lubricate.

The first time you field strip your pistol, you may well have difficulty reassembling it and despair that you have ruined it. In order to get it reassembled, you have to have the barrel correctly rotated and the tooth on the central block has to be fully engaged with the barrel double cam. You will feel it click into place when the alignment is proper. The central block also has to be properly aligned with its seat in the slide for the slide to go back on smoothly.

A good source of info for Beretta owners is the Beretta forum (dot net).
 
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