A Weird Idea for a Defensive Shotgun Load...

I'd like to see a 12 guage IQ load (You know, that funky Aguila handgun ammo - the stuff they bill as being "smart").

Since they're made from a very light alloy and have an enormous hollow point, I'm sure you could get them running pretty fast. I'll have to email them and see if they plan on offering something like this.

update:
emailed them and they say that they are not planning on offering this "at this time" but "perhaps in the near future."

For what it may be worth.
 
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I know absolutely nothing about reloading, so if this would destory a barrel or maim the user - take it easy on me! Here goes -

has anyone tried loading buckshot without a buffer and using, say, birdshot as a buffer material instead? for use as a home defense round, I think that this would be devastating. At close range it would basically be like a big slug but at farther ranges you would have the performance of buck shot (with the added advantage of all those little pellets too). Good idea? Insane? Just won't work? Waste of time? I've been curious about this for a while.
 
bikeguy,

I have what I call a General Purpose Varmit Round (GPVR). It is a 2 3/4" AA hull, WAA12R wad, 3/4 oz of #6 lead and topped off with 6 .31" lead balls. I use surplus pulldown powder, so I won't mention charge weights here.

Pattern of the buckshot is much tighter than an un buffered 12 pellet load, and the #6 shot gives adequate pattern density for snakes and rodents.

Shotshells are a lot of fun to experiment with, just remeber to change only one variable at a time and start slow/work up gradually.
 
Kerth-

unfortunately, I don't have the capability to reload (yet?). Does anyone manufacture anything like this? I'd like to try something like this out!
 
bikeguy, pick up a lee load all shotgun loader, 39 bucks last I seen them, that's what i use, My favorite buckshot load is a 2 3/4" hull with a standard birdshot cup loaded with 8 pelets of 000 buck buffered with number 4 shot, It is a great round , patterns pretty much in the middle between the hardened plated buffered premium buck shot and the cheap soft unbuffered stuff and costs less then either to load. i keep the powder charge down to limit my recoil, No chronograph but i'de say probably 1000 fps , still plenty enough to ruin your day. Someone was talking about plastic slugs before, has anyone tried taking a standard bird shot wad, wrapping the outside of the fingers (sealed cup) with masking tape and filling it with epoxy blended with no 12 birdshto, after it sets, remove the tape(as much as possable) and load, Could work, expecially in a rifled bore like a glaser safety slug, not sure, possable watermelon tests. as in any ammo related post, use common sense, if it sounds like a bad idea it probably is, Play at your own risk!
 
Long ago, I melted the lead out of some 158 gr SP .357 mag bullets (in casting pot) & then filled the empty jackets with #6 shot. A dab of silicon closed the wound. Poor man's MagSafe round.

Loaded 'em up & did some pretty informal testing & no chrony. Results seemed to be in the ballpark of MagSafe's own, but again, really zip for test data = all anecdotal.

Don't see why a shot cup couldn't be suitably "statisized" a la MagSafe.

1 oz of #4 (hell anything!) coming apart just after contact should be devestating.
 
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