A Vote For Buchanan Is A Vote For America
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David Scott
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A vote for Buchanan is a vote for a religious dictatorship. Besides, the man can't keep his foot out of his mouth, and he has no coherent policy except on so-called "moral" issues.
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Paul Revere
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"Religious dictatorship"? You aren't serious?
The reason why Pat seems so "extreme" is because he is so strongly (and openly) against the New World Order agenga and ALL that it stands for. Hence, the leftists who head this agenda, and also control the media, are vilifying Pat because he is the only candidate for president who presents a REAL (and public) threat to their agenda. An agenda which includes eliminating FREEDOM!
He is a man of principle, unlike the Democratic or Republican nominees who are indebted to their "masters" to carry out their roles in the NWO.
If Pat makes a charge, and rises in the polls to a strong contention, look for the masters of the NWO to order an assination. The media will be a part of making it all look like it was best for our country's future to do away with this "extremist", thereby setting a precedent for eliminating those who outwardly oppose the leftist's NWO agenda.
With either of the two party puppets winning the election, the leftists simply continue their march against our freedom, and we (Americans) lose.
The reason why Pat seems so "extreme" is because he is so strongly (and openly) against the New World Order agenga and ALL that it stands for. Hence, the leftists who head this agenda, and also control the media, are vilifying Pat because he is the only candidate for president who presents a REAL (and public) threat to their agenda. An agenda which includes eliminating FREEDOM!
He is a man of principle, unlike the Democratic or Republican nominees who are indebted to their "masters" to carry out their roles in the NWO.
If Pat makes a charge, and rises in the polls to a strong contention, look for the masters of the NWO to order an assination. The media will be a part of making it all look like it was best for our country's future to do away with this "extremist", thereby setting a precedent for eliminating those who outwardly oppose the leftist's NWO agenda.
With either of the two party puppets winning the election, the leftists simply continue their march against our freedom, and we (Americans) lose.
Glenn E. Meyer
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CleanCut - if that is your idea of a cogent argument - well, you are not doing your candidate any good.
Anyway, a vote for Buchanan is a vote for Gore.
Anyway, a vote for Buchanan is a vote for Gore.
Bush or Gore? I'll take Gore. At least maybe we'll have some healthcare. Besides, it's the Democrats who really make people hungrier for change. More Democrats, more frustration. More frustration, hungrier voters. No more of those sissy Viagra Republicans. Vote Buchanan. www.gopatgo.org.
Do your part if you care about America. Or go crawl in a hole.
Do your part if you care about America. Or go crawl in a hole.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CleanCut:
Do your part if you care about America. Or go crawl in a hole.[/quote]
Buchanan would ruin the US economy! Besides, as I mentioned in an earlier post, he has teamed up with the Marxist/Leninists!
If you don't believe me, the article is at http://www.msnbc.com/msn/382362.asp
So, I guess that means you'd better start looking for a good hole to crawl into, CleanCut!
Do your part if you care about America. Or go crawl in a hole.[/quote]
Buchanan would ruin the US economy! Besides, as I mentioned in an earlier post, he has teamed up with the Marxist/Leninists!
If you don't believe me, the article is at http://www.msnbc.com/msn/382362.asp
So, I guess that means you'd better start looking for a good hole to crawl into, CleanCut!
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but a vote for Buchanan, Browne or Keys is just that and vote for the candidate you believe represents your ideals the best. Contrary to popular belief AlGore cant place aliases on the ballot, nor can he go around remarking all those Buchanan, Browne and Keys forms to really say AlGore before the count is made. The problem that has gotten us into this crap shoot we are in is people voting v=for who they thought would win, just so they could be on the winning team. If over the years peopel would have voted their consciences we probably would not have ended up in this crapola.
Vote for the candidate who represents your beliefs the best. PERIOD. In all likelyhood, George or Al will take the seat and we will be lead by yet another professional politician who will do what is best for his future and not ours. The only difference will be the pace at which we get F'ed. Hard and fast or soft and slow. Take your pick.
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If stupidity hurt, liberals would be walking around in agony.
Vote for the candidate who represents your beliefs the best. PERIOD. In all likelyhood, George or Al will take the seat and we will be lead by yet another professional politician who will do what is best for his future and not ours. The only difference will be the pace at which we get F'ed. Hard and fast or soft and slow. Take your pick.
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If stupidity hurt, liberals would be walking around in agony.
And for those who don't like it, you can just go crawl in a hole.
I have a problem. I am agree with alot of what he stands for, but I also have a major problem with the religion aspect.
As an athiest (sorry, was a church goer for many many years, but found nothing that was not explainable by other means.. and too many descpencies in the "word") I am frightened by those who would try to force thier moral and religious views on me.
I have no doubt that if elected (keep in mind the next president will have a HUGE impact on the US Supreme Court) he will cause a great many changes that I have problems with.
Abortion: I feel it's a personal choice. If it's for you, then do it. If you don't like it, fine. Just have respect for the person who disagrees.
School Prayer: No place in the public school system where alot of the children are not members of the christian's who want prayer. Silent time for personal reflection, yes. Prayer, no.
10 Commandments in Gov buildings & Schools: No place in the system. The first 4 commandments are about God and him alone. They have nothing to do with morals or being a good person. If you really want the commandments, then drop the first 4 and include the equivilent from other religions as well. Present all the options and let the kids make thier own choices.
If you think he will not shape the US SC to relect his own views on this... Well, You have more faith in him than I do.
I have a problem. I am agree with alot of what he stands for, but I also have a major problem with the religion aspect.
As an athiest (sorry, was a church goer for many many years, but found nothing that was not explainable by other means.. and too many descpencies in the "word") I am frightened by those who would try to force thier moral and religious views on me.
I have no doubt that if elected (keep in mind the next president will have a HUGE impact on the US Supreme Court) he will cause a great many changes that I have problems with.
Abortion: I feel it's a personal choice. If it's for you, then do it. If you don't like it, fine. Just have respect for the person who disagrees.
School Prayer: No place in the public school system where alot of the children are not members of the christian's who want prayer. Silent time for personal reflection, yes. Prayer, no.
10 Commandments in Gov buildings & Schools: No place in the system. The first 4 commandments are about God and him alone. They have nothing to do with morals or being a good person. If you really want the commandments, then drop the first 4 and include the equivilent from other religions as well. Present all the options and let the kids make thier own choices.
If you think he will not shape the US SC to relect his own views on this... Well, You have more faith in him than I do.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CleanCut:
Huh, huh. Ya, right.
Well, I guess that puts an end that label (or libel) "religious fascist", now doesn't it? Vote Buchanan, or go back to your hole.[/quote]
I didn't call him a fascist (although maybe he is -- I really don't know), but his ideas about economics are ludicrous in an era of globalization.
So Buchanan is extreme right, and he's joining up with the extreme left, and you're supporting this? That's like a Hitler/Stalin tag team. Okay, in Russia this is feasible maybe, because those parties are both reactionary. But in the US this combination would be extremely deleterious to our nation and countrary to the American ideal!
Huh, huh. Ya, right.
Well, I guess that puts an end that label (or libel) "religious fascist", now doesn't it? Vote Buchanan, or go back to your hole.[/quote]
I didn't call him a fascist (although maybe he is -- I really don't know), but his ideas about economics are ludicrous in an era of globalization.
So Buchanan is extreme right, and he's joining up with the extreme left, and you're supporting this? That's like a Hitler/Stalin tag team. Okay, in Russia this is feasible maybe, because those parties are both reactionary. But in the US this combination would be extremely deleterious to our nation and countrary to the American ideal!
A vote for anyone other than G.W. Bush is a vote FOR Al Gore.
Obviously this is unappealing to many, but if you can prove otherwise using the system as we have it in place today, please run for office, get elected, and bring about substantive change. Until that time, I repeat: A vote for anyone other than G.W. Bush is a vote FOR Al Gore.
Erik
Obviously this is unappealing to many, but if you can prove otherwise using the system as we have it in place today, please run for office, get elected, and bring about substantive change. Until that time, I repeat: A vote for anyone other than G.W. Bush is a vote FOR Al Gore.
Erik
Jim:
I sympathise with your views. I feel kind of atheistic at times myself. Nevertheless, I find Pat's religious views a very minor point. Why are Pat's enemies always smearing him with Marxist/Too Religious labels? Buchanan stands up for America and Americans first. Perhaps that's what his enemies are really afraid of. Give the man a chance, hear is view. Be fair, or go crawl in a hole.
I sympathise with your views. I feel kind of atheistic at times myself. Nevertheless, I find Pat's religious views a very minor point. Why are Pat's enemies always smearing him with Marxist/Too Religious labels? Buchanan stands up for America and Americans first. Perhaps that's what his enemies are really afraid of. Give the man a chance, hear is view. Be fair, or go crawl in a hole.
Paul Revere
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Regardless of your religious beliefs, your armchair politics, or your use of crystal ball tactics, nothing is better to learn from (and therefore make intelligent freedom related decisions on), than history. It (the NWO agenda) began with Woodrow Wilson, accellerated with Franklin Roosevelt, and has been chugging forward with nearly every president since the CFR became involved with placing their people into political and appointed offices. Clinton merely typifies the NWO movement to the nth degree. Both Gore and Bush are CFR breedstock, and will do everything that their NWO masters want them to do, to further their anti-freedom agenda.
The United States presidency (and all other elected/appointed positions) requires taking an oath to office, which involves placing one's hand upon a Bible and swearing to God that the oath will be carried out. This oath is based on religious conviction, principles, and morality...hence the Bible. We also have a phrase in America that goes something like, "In God We Trust", for this very reason.
It's plainly obvious today that religious beliefs in American politics are no longer politically correct, especially christianity. But it is the basis of trust, ethical behavior, and morality that is the basis for our republic.
The Clinton administration is a perfect example of what our founding fathers wanted to avoid in America. It typifies the new age of New World Order politics, which BTW mirror images the totalitarian regemes of Communism.
The United States presidency (and all other elected/appointed positions) requires taking an oath to office, which involves placing one's hand upon a Bible and swearing to God that the oath will be carried out. This oath is based on religious conviction, principles, and morality...hence the Bible. We also have a phrase in America that goes something like, "In God We Trust", for this very reason.
It's plainly obvious today that religious beliefs in American politics are no longer politically correct, especially christianity. But it is the basis of trust, ethical behavior, and morality that is the basis for our republic.
The Clinton administration is a perfect example of what our founding fathers wanted to avoid in America. It typifies the new age of New World Order politics, which BTW mirror images the totalitarian regemes of Communism.
cruiserman
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CleanCut:
And for those who don't like it, you can just go crawl in a hole.[/quote]
Crawling in a hole . . .
I find Buchanan very entertaining, and he can really write a great speech, but I completely disagree with his core issue: restriction of free trade. I'm voting libertarian. I wish Ron Paul would run for Prez.
And for those who don't like it, you can just go crawl in a hole.[/quote]
Crawling in a hole . . .
I find Buchanan very entertaining, and he can really write a great speech, but I completely disagree with his core issue: restriction of free trade. I'm voting libertarian. I wish Ron Paul would run for Prez.
Okay, fair is fair. I looked at his home page. I saw what he had to say.
Buchanan is basically calling for an end to international trade, on which America thrives. Without trade, America would be a second- or third-rate economic power. His economic policy would ruin America.
Okay, sure his morality thing makes sense, but without any notion of what an economy is, he'll never get my vote -- or anyone I know, for that matter!
(And I'm not crawling into any holes, either.)
Buchanan is basically calling for an end to international trade, on which America thrives. Without trade, America would be a second- or third-rate economic power. His economic policy would ruin America.
Okay, sure his morality thing makes sense, but without any notion of what an economy is, he'll never get my vote -- or anyone I know, for that matter!
(And I'm not crawling into any holes, either.)
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Huh, huh. Ya, right.
Well, I guess that puts an end that label (or libel) "religious fascist", now doesn't it? Vote Buchanan, or go back to your
hole.[/quote]
Yeah it is now "Dirty Pinko KKKomie"
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"Guns don't kill people the government does", Rusty Shackleford.
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[This message has been edited by jnix (edited March 15, 2000).]
Well, I guess that puts an end that label (or libel) "religious fascist", now doesn't it? Vote Buchanan, or go back to your
hole.[/quote]
Yeah it is now "Dirty Pinko KKKomie"
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"Guns don't kill people the government does", Rusty Shackleford.
http://www.fair.org
[This message has been edited by jnix (edited March 15, 2000).]
David Roberson
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cruiserman:
I'm voting libertarian. I wish Ron Paul would run for Prez.
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Cruiserman, Ron Paul was the Libertarian Party candidate for president in 1988. (Incidentally, that was an off year for the party, for they got on the ballot in only 46 states then.) You're right that he'd make a great president.
[This message has been edited by David Roberson (edited March 15, 2000).]
I'm voting libertarian. I wish Ron Paul would run for Prez.
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Cruiserman, Ron Paul was the Libertarian Party candidate for president in 1988. (Incidentally, that was an off year for the party, for they got on the ballot in only 46 states then.) You're right that he'd make a great president.
[This message has been edited by David Roberson (edited March 15, 2000).]
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