Yup, no license. It is only a federal crime (and by extension, a state crime in many states) for you to build a personal-use NFA weapon before you have the tax stamp.ShootistPRS said:No license is required to make a short barreled rifle? or a zip gun? or an automatic rifle? (full auto)
It is not only a federal crime to make those weapons it is also a state felony as well in my state.
There is a difference between make and manufacture. ANYONE can make a firearm under Federal law, no forms, taxes, permission slips needed. If you intend to make an NFA firearm you need to file an ATF Form 1 as a "maker" of an NFA firearm. It's merely a $200 tax. You cannot actually make the silencer, SBS, SBR or AOW until you receive your tax stamp.ShootistPRS No license is required to make a short barreled rifle? or a zip gun?
You could TRY, but your Form 1 would be denied unless you are a government law enforcement agency.or an automatic rifle? (full auto)
No, it's not a Federal crime as long as you follow the law. Not knowing where you live I couldn't tell you whether its legal in your state to make your own firearms or your own NFA firearms............but it most likely IS LEGAL.It is not only a federal crime to make those weapons it is also a state felony as well in my state.
As Chris pointed out, a simple approved Form 1 is all that is required to make your own silencer, SBS, SBR, AOW. Happens thousands of times every year.I am free to make any gun that it is legal to own - any non-NFA gun.
There is no such thing as a "Class III license".carguychris ......... The SOT and Class III license rigmarole (along with ITAR) is only necessary if you manufacture NFA firearms as a business.
I know that. It was a case of poor wording. Post corrected.dogtown tom said:There is no such thing as a "Class III license".
Still wrong.carguychrisQuote:
Originally Posted by dogtown tom
There is no such thing as a "Class III license".
I know that. It was a case of poor wording. Post corrected.
What do you think? My first thoughts about this design, is that the "magazine chamber", which chamber the round and is inserted into the main barrel, can't be to thin, because it will expand and get welded in place.
How thin can it be made? Would it be possible to make it as thin as 0,5mm? Which steel (or other metal/material) should i use for it? And how come that a brass cartridge don't get stuck in the chamber?
Yes. Revolvers basically made them obsolete.stephen426 said:I'm guessing [the harmonica] was pre-revolver?
My understanding is that they generally did.stephen426 said:As for the duckfoot, it looks like it would fire all four shots at once.
My recollection is that the duckfoot was designed as a naval weapon at a time when boarding enemy ships was a commonplace tactic, and those ships were generally small. Picture yourself standing on the deck of an old-time wooden sailing ship with a bunch of enemy sailors rushing at you with sabers and pikes. The ability to hit more than one of them is the whole idea. It's assumed that there are no innocent bystanders aboard an enemy warship.stephen426 said:I guess if you were attacked by multiple assailants, it could be helpful, but what if they weren't lined up perfectly with the barrels? What if there were innocents (or loved ones) that were nearby?
The cartridge chamber of the magazine has to be tight enough, so the rounds won't easily fall out, otherwise some kind of protection could be used in order to keep them in place. You insert the magazine only when you wan't to fire the gun btw.Monday,
What would keep the bullets from just falling out of your "harmonica" mag? What would keep your mag inserted into the chamber and what would lock it in place to control the recoil? A locked breech is not a necessity with such a light round, but usually, the recoil is being used to eject the round and cock the hammer/striker for the next shot, while the recoil spring loads the next round.
You really should go back to the question... What does this do that other guns don't do, AND does it do it BETTER? What is the advantage?
Monday said:The cartridge chamber of the magazine has to be tight enough, so the rounds won't easily fall out, otherwise some kind of protection could be used in order to keep them in place. You insert the magazine only when you wan't to fire the gun btw.
Well, the magazine has to be pulled forward in the direction towards the muzzle, to chamber the round in the barrel, which you want to fire. So the round is inserted in both the magazine and the barrel when fired. (The magazine chamber is inserted in the barrel)
In that way it will be inline with the barrel and keep it inserted. However, when you wan't to fire the next round, you simply pull the magazine backwards, to realse the magazine/roundchamber, and then you can pull the magazine left/forward. You can either chamber a new round or realease the magazine.
The firing pin will lock the breech, like this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rp-Igxxq8Lw The firing pin is attached to the bolt.
My gun has the same concept, the only difference is the harmonica mag, which you insert at the cartridge insert/exit of the breech. And the breech has to have two of those holes, just like the hormonica gun.
The advantage of the magazine is that you can easy and fast put a new round to fire, instead of pulling out the fired one and pull in a new by hand.
Against my old design, the advtange is that the gun itself can be made more compact and i guess chamber more rounds in the magazine, but at the same time it will take longer to fire my second design than my first design.
Whoever wrote that has never held an FFL or an SOT.James K .......That the SOT has been paid is indicated by a tax stamp (a literal paper stamp) which is attached to the FFL...