Hammerhead
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Right now I think there's only one version for sale new, KSP-242-8, the 4" half lug 8 shot model with fiber optic sights. List price $699.
What price was it?
What price was it?
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A Ruger 101
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The new Ruger SP-101 is viewed favorably by most. The old SP-101 in 22LR had a terrible trigger. They always appealed to me and I have looked at many in stores and at gun shows. I wanted to buy one. But, the trigger always stopped me from buying and of course they were snubbie sized versus the current 4.2" barrel length. If the new ones (4.2") are like most Rugers, the trigger (although fairly stout in double action) should smooth out with use. Honestly, I shoot mostly single action with my double action revolvers anyway. But it's fun to shoot DA also.
It retails for $699, so $560 is probably about right price-wise. Yes, it seems like a lot. Try pricing a new S&W M617.
It retails for $699, so $560 is probably about right price-wise. Yes, it seems like a lot. Try pricing a new S&W M617.
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newfrontier45
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The OP was extremely vague. I think some folks are trying to get more details so they can help YOU. There has been more than one variation of the SP101 .22LR, with quite a few years between runs and that makes a difference. Although I'm not sure what the new 8-shot (or 9, I don't remember) version has done to what was a collector premium on the original 6-shot version.
NO standard revolver can compete with a good fixed barrel auto for accuracy. A good revolver will typically shoot into 1-1.5"@25yds with preferred loads and any decent fixed barrel auto like the Ruger MK-series or Browning Buckmark will easily halve that. Many doing even better. Rimfire revolvers should be compared to other revolvers, not other rimfires.
I would not assume the cylinder length is to blame. K-22's have always had very long cylinders for the cartridge and accuracy is usually excellent. The SP is not a target revolver and was never meant to be.One issue I have is the .357 length cylinder causing such a long jump to the rifling. Bullets have to travel about 3/4" before they hit the rifling. It really seems to limit accuracy. The best mine (older 6 shot model) will do is about 2" at 25 yards from a rest with mini mags, other ammo shoots about 3". That's a far cry from my Mark II that will shoot just about anything under 1-1/2", mini mags well under an inch.
Since mine is a 6 shot, I'm thinking of having it converted to .22 mag.
NO standard revolver can compete with a good fixed barrel auto for accuracy. A good revolver will typically shoot into 1-1.5"@25yds with preferred loads and any decent fixed barrel auto like the Ruger MK-series or Browning Buckmark will easily halve that. Many doing even better. Rimfire revolvers should be compared to other revolvers, not other rimfires.
That helps muchly.
The current version was brought out two years ago, in 8-shot form, with a 4.2-inch barrel (to allow sales in Canada) using a half-length underlug.
It has, as you saw, the green fiberoptic front sight and a fully adjustable rear sight, neither of which did the older 6-shot versions have.
There were some initial "new model" guns that left the factory with improperly cut forcing cones that caused leading and accuracy problems, but those were corrected one Ruger was informed of the problem.
In my opinion, the current model is the best of the SP101 .22s.
It's a well-made and durable gun.
Anywhere around $500 is about right. It's not a cheapie & it's built to hold up over the long run.
DA trigger pull will be heavy because it's a rimfire. Some people have success with a lighter spring, others run into misfires with a lighter spring.
Hogue and Badger make excellent larger aftermarket grips.
Once you give people some detail in your questions, it's much easier to answer them.
Denis
The current version was brought out two years ago, in 8-shot form, with a 4.2-inch barrel (to allow sales in Canada) using a half-length underlug.
It has, as you saw, the green fiberoptic front sight and a fully adjustable rear sight, neither of which did the older 6-shot versions have.
There were some initial "new model" guns that left the factory with improperly cut forcing cones that caused leading and accuracy problems, but those were corrected one Ruger was informed of the problem.
In my opinion, the current model is the best of the SP101 .22s.
It's a well-made and durable gun.
Anywhere around $500 is about right. It's not a cheapie & it's built to hold up over the long run.
DA trigger pull will be heavy because it's a rimfire. Some people have success with a lighter spring, others run into misfires with a lighter spring.
Hogue and Badger make excellent larger aftermarket grips.
Once you give people some detail in your questions, it's much easier to answer them.
Denis
Hammerhead
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I recently bought a 6 shot, 4", half lug .22lr model built in 2000. Trigger is as good as any of the new ones, if not better.The old SP-101 in 22LR had a terrible trigger. They always appealed to me and I have looked at many in stores and at gun shows. I wanted to buy one. But, the trigger always stopped me from buying and of course they were snubbie sized versus the current 4.2" barrel length.
What I really like about the older models is the all steel, low profile, windage adjustable sights. I can't bring myself to buy any gun with plastic sights.
And one reason I had no interest myself in the older ones was that windage-only rear sight.
The new front sight is mostly steel with the light pipe well supported.
I don't worry about it breaking, and the new combination with all-steel rear is much more visible as well as being more adatptable to different loads.
Denis
The new front sight is mostly steel with the light pipe well supported.
I don't worry about it breaking, and the new combination with all-steel rear is much more visible as well as being more adatptable to different loads.
Denis