A rattle at the bedroom door.

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Shoot through the door???

An important point to remember is that if you shoot through the door at an unknown target of unknown danger then you are liable. Forget the "judged by 12/carried by 6" stuff. If you shoot at someone who is not threatening you (or another person) then you will go to jail. And you may kill someone who is completely innocent. There are a hundred reasons why someone may be rattling your door knob. Being scared isn't a reason to take a life.
-Don’t get me wrong- if someone walks in your door threatening your life then you would be justified to shoot them. But you had better be sure of your target. It might be the Cop who found your door open (after scaring off a burglar) and is checking the house for more burglars! It happens more than you think.
The short answer? Only a fool shoots at something he can't see!
 
An important point to remember is that if you shoot through the door at an unknown target of unknown danger then you are liable.
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One of the primary rules of guns - be sure of your target.

The only time you are permitted to shoot is if the BG has opportunity, ability, and intent. You can prove none of these through a door.
 
For 98% of conditions I agree .. you shouldn't fire thru a closed door.

But, living alone and having someone attempt to open a clocked & locked bedroom door in oh-dark-thirty is reason for alarm. Most bedroom doors offer about as much protection as cardboard because they're hollow-core doors.

Mine isn't. If wood starts splintering, either the solid door itself or the moulding/door frame, someone is capable of ripping moulding attached by 3-1/2" screws. At this point, I already have a felonious intruder breaking down my last reinforced barrier.

It's unlikely to happen in reality though. My attack cat would make mincemeat out of 'em. :D
 
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I think Charlie asks the right question here.

When some one starts a thread asking if we'd shoot thru a door at an unknown target that hasn't even been ID'd as a threat, then the poster fails in the ambassador department, since killing your neighbor who knocks on your door for help during an emergency isn't cool, anymore than filling a cop full of holes who came to let you know your car (that you didn't know was stolen) was just recovered a half hour ago.

It's good to see that so many of the replies made a joke out of the thread, which is appropriate IMO.:cool:
 
Pardon me - and thanks for pontificating.

The purpose of the thread was to bring some reality to posts in a previous threade where folks said they would just open fire at the slightest provocation. Challenging or ID'ing the possible threat was not part of their plan.

I intended to point out that life is more complex and show a realistic scenario that could happen (has happened to me once, BTW) and see if the blood lust crowd could see the point.

Also, FYI, in various FOF training scenarios, folks practice what to do with an intruder at the door.

So, your initial conjectures about the thread are off base and you missed the point in your self righteous pontification.
 
All you door shooters there might want to read up on the Peairs case out of Baton Rouge, LA. Remember, with Peairs he was found not guilty of any criminal act but it still cost him close to a million dollars by the time it is all over with.
 
So, your initial conjectures about the thread are off base and you missed the point in your self righteous pontification.
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I intended to point out that life is more complex and show a realistic scenario that could happen (has happened to me once, BTW) and see if the blood lust crowd could see the point.
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Well, it seems I'm guilty of taking your post at face value and not realizing your point was directly related to another thread I wasn't aware of.

Ah jeez, Glen. Why not let the rest of us in on the intent of the thread to begin with and lessen the chance of a "self righteous pontification" to which you ascribed my post.:rolleyes:

Besides, your trick didn't work, since not one poster answered yes to shooting through the door and identifying themselves as part of "the blood lust crowd".:p

See, this is what happens when old geezers like Glen and me have too much time on our hands. Maybe I should consider going back to drinking.:D
 
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What do you guys think? Is it time to close this one?

Seems that pretty much all that can be said has been said...

pax
 
Obvious problem for any of you with teenage kids. I know when I was living at home, it wasn't rare for me to sneak one of my girlfriends in the house in the middle of the night. Also wasn't rare for me to sneak over to their houses. Make sure of your target and their intent before firing, if they are foe then let the JHP go.
 
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