A Little Hi Power Help

[RickB]

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RickB....When the truth came out, that FN was still going to make them, and only that Browning was no longer going to do the importing...

Browning is still the only US importer of the FN Hi Power.

That's interesting, as I can't remember the last time I saw a (obviously) Browning-marked Hi-Power? They have a giant "FN" stamped on the slide, but maybe that just replaced the tiny, "made in Belgium, assembled in Portugal" lettering that they used to have?

EDIT: OK, for a time, FNUSA imported the HP as a FN product, without Browning markings. FN later changed their minds, and Browning again became the U.S. importer. I apparently stopped paying attention after I got mine!

 

[dogtown tom]

RickB .......Browning again became the U.S. importer....

Not "again" because Browning has never stopped being the US importer.

As said above FNMI imported a few Hi Powers before they decided it was unnecessary duplication of effort.

Which is sad, because the FNMI imported HP's had that beautiful FN logo.

 

[RickB]

There are FN-made HPs in the United States that were not imported by Browning, and without Browning markings; is that a reasonable statement?

 

[WVsig]

There are FN-made HPs in the United States that were not imported by Browning, and without Browning markings; is that a reasonable statement?

Yes!!!!!!!!

Dogtown is being a little obtuse which is not uncommon. LOL

Browning has always been the US importer of Browning marked BHPs. They were not always owned by FN as they are now. IIRC FN acquired them somewhere in the 90s. FN however imported some with FN Rollmarks and not mention of Browning. The were imported by FN who was at that time located in Columbia, SC.

Here is a pic of one:

Here is another:

They were all MKIII guns some of them has the SFS trigger system which they attempted to sell to the LEO market but there were no takers. IHMO the SFS trigger is a solution in search of a problem.

On top of that there are many FN marked BHPs which were not made for the US market but were later imported into the US via secondary importers. Like PW Arms/KBI/Interarms/Century Arms/TGI Etc....

Like this one:



These days many of them are engraved ever so slightly, just enough to pass regulation, and then refinished. Many of the surplus BHPs that Coles Dist is selling on GB do not have an import mark and show the European FN Rollmarks. No Browning rollmarks.

Current MKIIIs imported by Browning look like this:

 

[dogtown tom]

RickB...There are FN-made HPs in the United States that were not imported by Browning, and without Browning markings; is that a reasonable statement?

Yes, no one disputes that.

WVsig ....Dogtown is being a little obtuse which is not uncommon. LOL

"Obtuse"? Who peed in your Cheerios's?

If it hurts your feelings that others on this forum can answer simple questions I'm sorry.

 

[WVsig]

"Obtuse"? Who peed in your Cheerios's?

If it hurts your feelings that others on this forum can answer simple questions I'm sorry.

Don't eat Cherrios.... and yes obtuse.

difficult to comprehend : not clear or precise in thought or expression

You continue to post and argue that Browning is the single importer of Browning Hi Powers into the US which is simply not the case.

You incorrectly stated that Browning was the only importer of BHPs and have been back peddling and two stepping around that statement ever since in an "obtuse" fashion.

Use of the word does not contain or denote any feelings at all. You maybe projecting something you are experiencing on to me. I am simply addressing what you have written and the convoluted way you have done it.

I love knowledge and information when it is accurate and clearly presented. IMHO your posts in this thread do not qualify.

 

[WVsig]

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RickB...There are FN-made HPs in the United States that were not imported by Browning, and without Browning markings; is that a reasonable statement?

Dogtown's reply:
Yes, no one disputes that..

If that is the case it directly contradicts your previous statement.

Browning is still the only US importer of the FN Hi Power.

Or am I being obtuse? LOL

Sorry for the thread hijack... Surplus BHPs are the way to go if you are looking for a shooter not a collectible or LNIB example. They are cheap functional and easy to get. The sub $500 price tag OTD for most people make them a no brainer. If you already own shooters I suggest looking at the used market carefully. There are still bargains out there but you have to be patient and have $$$ ready when the right deal is there.

I have bought and sold and customized more than a dozen BHPs over the years but have never paid top $$$ for a single one prior to customization. The OPs deal sounds solid and if I were him/her I would jump on it.

 

[dogtown tom]

WVsig You continue to post and argue that Browning is the single importer of Browning Hi Powers into the US which is simply not the case.

Context, you are ignoring it.
My initial reply to RickB was regarding his comment that "Browning was no longer going to do the importing". As Browning never stopped being a factory authorized importer of new FN Hi Powers that statement is incorrect.

You incorrectly stated that Browning was the only importer of BHPs and have been back peddling and two stepping around that statement ever since in an "obtuse" fashion.

I'm not two stepping anything and again, my reply was in regards to new Hi Powers.

Any licensed dealer can import firearms, but that doesn't mean NEW firearms with factory warranty & service.
If you know of another current importer of new FN Hi Powers then please spill the beans.

Whether AIM, Century, Cole's, etc have imported FN Hi Powers is immaterial......they are used guns. Any jackleg gunshop can do the occasional import of a firearm and mark it as such.

RickB's comment was the supposition that Browning would no longer import Hi Powers. Being that Browning Arms imports only NEW Hi Powers, and has never imported used, military surplus Hi Powers it seems that even you could under the context of my reply.

Use of the word does not contain or denote any feelings at all. You maybe projecting something you are experiencing on to me. I am simply addressing what you have written and the convoluted way you have done it.

I love knowledge and information when it is accurate and clearly presented. IMHO your posts in this thread do not qualify.

In your zeal to be the smartest guy in the thread you ignored the context of my reply to RickB.

 

[dogtown tom]

WVsig Quote:

RickB...There are FN-made HPs in the United States that were not imported by Browning, and without Browning markings; is that a reasonable statement?

Dogtown's reply:
Yes, no one disputes that..

If that is the case it directly contradicts your previous statement.

No, it doesn't.
For one, RickB isn't asking about current NEW Hi Powers, his question refers to "...HP's in the United States that were not imported by Browning..."

"In the United States..." means exactly that. Prewar and WWII bringbacks will not have BROWNING ARMS marked on the pistol. Neither will the Hi Powers imported by Vector, Cassi, FNMI, and others.

I'm sure you understand the difference.

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Browning is still the only US importer of the FN Hi Power.

Or am I being obtuse? LOL

Yeah, you are.