"A Balanced Perspective"- America is not a police state

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We all have prejudices, but we should think a second
time when these prejudices involve us in blanket negative
statements. This is especially true when our blanket
negative statements apply to American institutions -- to
the police and to America's armed forces.

Those of us who can remember the 1960s know there
was a time when police were called "pigs." It was also a
time when U.S. servicemen were disrespected as "baby
killers." Not surprisingly, the attitudes reflected by 1960s
protestors have origins in communist thinking and
propaganda. The fact is, in the late 1960s communist
influences were twisting America's collective psyche into
knots, seemingly at will -- turning an activist minority of
the nation's youth into protestors and agitators.

A leading Russian military intelligence (GRU) defector,
Col. Stanislav Lunev, wrote about the youthful agitators
of the 1960s in his book, "Through the Eyes of the
Enemy." According to Lunev the "GRU and KGB helped
to fund just about every antiwar movement and
organization in America and abroad." Lunev also noted
that "the GRU and KGB had a larger budget for antiwar
propaganda in the United States than it did for economic
and military support of the Vietnamese."

Without realizing it, those in America who called the
police "pigs," who evaded the draft, who rioted and
protested, were subtly being prompted by a gigantic
clandestine propaganda machine organized by agents of
Moscow and funded to the tune of a billion dollars by the
Soviet General Staff and KGB. As Col. Lunev says in his
book, "it was a hugely successful campaign and well
worth the cost. The antiwar sentiment created an
incredible momentum that greatly weakened the U.S.
military."

Quite naturally, knowing about the history of communist
subversion and propaganda in America, I tend to react
negatively to accusations against America's police and
armed forces. Whenever someone calls America an
"empire" or a "fascist state," I listen closely to the entire
diatribe and consider who really benefits from this kind of
talk. I listen for certain code words borrowed from
Soviet or Chinese propaganda. I listen for concepts lifted
from Marx and Lenin. It doesn't matter whether the
anti-police or anti-military sentiment is expressed from
the left or the right. The question always remains: Does
this sort of talk hurt America and help its enemies?

However corrupt or inept our police and military might
prove to be, such institutions nonetheless exist for our
defense. And we need defense because -- believe it or
not -- we have enemies. Nothing is served by a blanket
condemnation of America's defensive structures.
Constructive criticism is one thing, and a necessary thing,
but there is also destructive criticism which might
eventually lead to our country's demise.

Which brings me to the conversation that triggered
today's column.

A friend of mine recently characterized the FBI as
America's "secret police." Quite naturally, I had a
knee-jerk reaction against this assessment, not because
I'm a defender of the FBI or its record, but because I
know a thing or two about real secret police
organizations -- the ones you normally think about when
the word "secret police" comes to mind. These
organizations include the Gestapo and the KGB, or the
Chinese secret police -- led by figures like Heinrich
Himmler, Lavrenti Beria and Kang Sheng. Such
organizations were instrumental in the liquidation of
millions of people, and in the incarceration of millions of
human beings whose only crime was to disagree with the
state.

I'm offended whenever somebody compares American
institutions with real totalitarian institutions. I'm offended
because American institutions are not totalitarian. We do
not have a secret police as they do in Russia or China or
Cuba. Oh yes, we have police abuses, we have a bad
man in the White House, we have imperfect institutions --
because human institutions are not infinitely perfectible.
Government is a necessary evil, as the founders taught.
And the key word here is "necessary," despite the claims
of Libertarian anarchists.

I repeat: we do not have a dicatorship, we do not have
mass executions or death camps, and any comparison of
America with regimes of this type is flat wrong. The U.S.
Senate may be corrupt and the judiciary may have lost
sight of the Constitution, but we are not murdering Jews
in ovens. We are not arresting poets and journalists for
writing against the government. Thousands are not
undergoing torture in our jails. But torture is routine in
Russian and Chinese and North Korean jails.

It is shameful, even vile to compare the sins of the United
States with those of Nazi Germany or Russia or China.
Even to hint at a comparison, in my view, is an error
which cries out for correction. It is an error because it
underestimates the evil that exists in places like China and
Cuba and Iraq. It is an error because it slanders
American institutions, making them out to be much worse
than they really are.

The FBI is indeed capable of criminal errors and
cover-ups, like at Ruby Ridge and Waco. These were
shameful events, and they must never be repeated. And
make no mistake, there are corrupt FBI special agents,
because corruption exists in every human heart. After all,
it is human nature to go astray. But there is a difference
between the systematic evil of totalitarianism and the
ordinary corruption we find in all institutions, at all times.
Totalitarianism is a system of highly organized murder and
oppression, driven by ideology. American institutions, in
comparison, were not created to facilitate mass murder
and dictatorship.

The personnel of the FBI in general -- as the FBI exists
today -- could not be used to incarcerate millions of
political prisoners or to liquidate millions of human beings.
In the first place, the FBI is much too small. In the
second place, the personnel in question are sworn to
uphold the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. It would be
a political impossibility to use the FBI, as it exists today,
to uphold a dictatorship.

But there are anti-government ideologists today, as there
were in the 1960s, who believe that our government is
the enemy of the people. No doubt the government is a
"fearful master," as George Washington warned, and we
must be vigilant against usurpations. But in our vigilance
we must avoid exaggeration.

Related to this, as America has become "the world's
policeman," we also have to be wary of the claim that
America is an "imperialist" bully. Let me remind everyone
that the communist Chinese routinely refer to America as
an "imperialist" aggressor. This is one of those
propaganda words lifted from Lenin. It is a form of
calumny and abuse meant to discredit the good name of
America. Such propaganda has been used by those who
have killed Americans -- in the Korean War and in
Vietnam. It is even used in Russian military texts to justify
a future nuclear attack on America.

Propaganda is very serious business. When you
participate in enemy propaganda against your own
country, when you unthinkingly pick up certain code
words, you indirectly give aid and comfort to the enemies
of your country. This is not the right thing to do, and
Americans should think twice before doing it.

Rather than being a true imperialist nation, I believe that
the United States is routinely manipulated and swindled
by hosts of foreign countries. In fact, if you take Pat
Buchanan's book on U.S. trade policy seriously, then we
are the ones being ripped off, year after year. Lobbyists
from foreign countries (that we allegedly dominate)
swarm the halls of Congress and buy our legislators.
Trade barriers fall and whole American industries are
wiped out or shipped overseas.

By definition an empire seeks to accumulate territory and
loot other nations. What happens in our military policy is
the exact opposite. We typically hand territory back once
we've liberated it (for example, Cuba, the Philippines,
Japan, Germany, Italy, etc.) and we lose lots of money in
the process (which is called "foreign aid"). If America
really was this evil monster country, do you think Castro
would still exist in Cuba, thumbing his nose at us for over
40 years?

Do you think Castro is shaking in his boots, expecting the
genocidal imperialists from America to arrive on his
shores at any moment?

So before we jump to the conclusion that there is an
"American empire," we ought to consider first what
communist propaganda says on this theme, and what the
underlying reality actually is. If Puerto Rico, the Virgin
Islands and Guam make us an empire, then maybe we
are imperialists after all. But as I recall we've freed every
territory other than those that we've taken outside of the
50 states. And if the world hates us for that, then the
world is an unfair judge.

America is not a perfect country. But anyone who says
we are an evil empire needs to do a more careful
comparison between U.S. history and the history of other
large countries. Those who revile the United States
should read about the British in Ireland or the Nazis in
Europe. Let them compare U.S. institutions with
communist Chinese institutions. In an honest comparison
of this kind the greater evil on the one side becomes
readily apparent.

If we attempt a balanced perspective we find that
America is not such a bad country. Our police are not
"pigs" and our soldiers are not baby killers -- though
enemy propaganda wants us all to think so.
 
In the classical sense of the term, America is not (yet) a police state. That is, so far as it goes, true.

On the other hand, from a somewhat different prospective, one that asks the following question(s), which direction is America headed in, especially with respect to the sitting administration, and it's antics.

1. The Congress and government agencies in general are sworn to "uphold, support and defend The Constitution".
a. Do legislative proposals do this, or do they tend to favor governmental/bureaucratic "convenience", at the expense of individual freedom?
b. How do the actions/antics of other governmental agencies stack up, respecting the above question?

None of the foregoing says that this country is the worst place imaginable. None of the above says that other places are not or might not be worse, possibly very much worse, but do we want to enter what has breen described as "a race to the bottom", or do we, in this country, want to preserve individual freedoms?

I believe that these are the questions that we need to both asked and answer, painfull as asking and answering might be.
 
Terrific, another "corporate" shill obviously at the wrong meeting. I suggest the author do a USA run on a Harley, it's a wonderful way to meet local LEOs and visit with real Americans..henry
 
A matter of degree. The longest journey starts with a single step, we are many steps along on the journey towards socialism.

He said, "I listen for concepts lifted
from Marx and Lenin,....." Dare to compare the Communist Manifesto with Gore's platform. Not much difference.

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Sam I am, grn egs n packin

Nikita Khrushchev predicted confidently in a speech in Bucharest, Rumania on June 19, 1962 that: " The United States will eventually fly the Communist Red Flag...the American people will hoist it themselves."
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>In the second place, the personnel in question are sworn to uphold the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.[/quote]

What part of the bill of rights does the FBI uphold when it takes posession of a drug war criminal's house, car, and other posessions? What part of the Bill of Rights even allows the FBI to exist?

And since when has an oath to uphold the Constitution kept a politician or agent of the state from habitually violating it?

This is kinda like saying that Mussolini was a good guy because he didn't kill nearly as many people as Hitler or Stalin.
 
What do other officers or police chiefs when police do commit abuses.
Our state our DA's defend them teeth and nail
I agree Rodney King was a thug in many ways but if they didnt have that video tape of what happened to him those brave policemen would have gotten away scott free.
Is that treatment american are those our peace officers.
That things like Ruby Ridge with such horror happen in america is not what horrifies most of us I beleive its what doenst happen to the men who actually performed these actions when they are caught.
AS they are governments agents they are made to be almost beyond any from of punishment.
Now that doesnt sound like the america I was raised to beleive in.
Just what are we supposed to think of the congressmen when vote after vote after vote they work to overwrite the constitution and increase the size of the federal government or just as bad increase the powers of our state governments OVER us.
This fella ought to show us where congress the senate has EVER worked to decrease their powers repeal restrictive laws,decrease the nubmer of abusive federal agents or actually severely punish men given so much power
when they grind our freedoms and often even our lives into dust.
As several have said were not yet socialist
but the slippery slope continues congress never moves backward from more control more laws more government controlled/state officers who have AUTHORITY OVER us.
Much less their countless reason to over step our so called rights, the drug war,gun safety, child health (forced ritalin) you socialist indoctrination through government education programs in our public schools like a lack of knowledge about people like hitler ,programs to teach them to accept homo-sexuality and guncontrol (colleage level the latter.)/
I mean the NEA is a federal agency that is 100percent anti-gu.Where do ABC,NBC get money and their all totally anti-gun.
A rose by any other name with the same smell and thorns is still a rose.
If we dont attack their facist like actions now when do have a voice and guns when should we?
www.ccops.org www.jbs.org www.spotlight.org
 
Got to agree with you, Mikul; It's kind of a joke to say that FBI agents are sworn to uphold the Constitution, when most of the laws they enforce are contrary to it, and their very agency is of dubious constitutionality. Every unconstitutional law ever put on the books, and that's most of them, was written by somebody sworn to uphold the Constitution, voted in by somebody sworn to uphold the Constitution, signed by somebody sworn to uphold the Constitution, upheld by somebody sworn to uphold the Constitution, and enforced by somebody sworn to uphold the Constitution. That oath is just so much noise to many of the people who take it, and how many of the rest ever stop to seriously contemplate what it means?

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Sic semper tyrannis!
 
And those same laws are now lobbied as a way
to reduce crime
those same laws that are written over and contrary to the constitution.
And this group has 4 million memebers.LOL
 
I think BTR just ran a nice piece of government sponsored propaganda past us.

He wants us to go back to the good old days
of my country right or wrong.

Well , btr, that line of bull might work on
a high school graduate that has no clue how rotten out government is , but I know better from first hand experience.

There is a lot, a really whole lotthat is very wrong with our us government under Gore /Clinton and I have been watching the govt deteriate for the past 7.5 years because
of Gore and Clinton.

Give Gore another 4 and we really will be a lot more like China and North Korea than we
are now.
And I would not need to say any of this if the US government had stayed the way it was in 1990 but , instead, it got worst.

So BTR, while a large part of your post is BS govt feel good propaganda, there are also some valid points and it helped me and other patriots here focus and compair.

When I think of what the US Govt was in 1990
and what it is in 2000 and say to myself
Are we better of I get a resounding NO WAY
ringing from the rafters.

Some points to be emphisised .
Congress continues to pass more and more restrictive laws against gun owners and other
restrictive laws having nothing to do with guns, such as this new one that allows secret
serches of your records,finincial,medical,history and your home, without notification and without warrent and without enough or proper "Reasonable Cause".

The government continues to pass bills and laws that give it more and more power and raise taxes higher and higher and I never see any power being given back to the people.
I never see any anti civil rights gun laws being repealed. I never see the Constitution being upheld but instead , rewritten so as not to be so annoying ti the current power grab in progress.

SO ALL BTR IS REALLY SAYING IS THAT THE USA IS NOT QUITE YET AS BAD AS THE WORST

I am overjoyed, now I can sleep well at night
""NOT""!!!!

We all need to watch our government like HAWKS , every minute, ever day, every week and every month and then make a list of all the unconstitutional so called "laws" that they sneaked by us when we wernt looking.

Unfortuinatly, we must work and eat and sleep and have a live and in what little time is left us, check in on the government
to see what rights and liberties we just got screwed out of this week.
 
Its important not to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Before you scrap the current government, you had better be sure of the nature of what will replace it.
 
To balance your prospective, BTR, we now have less rights and less liberty and more restrictive laws and higher taxes in 2000, after 7 years of Gore, than we had in 1992, AD Before-Gore.
 
That little HCI piece is a bit confusing.
Ive always assumed they were always pro-gov
but the Waco picture and the quotes seem to blast Clinton and the US gov as far as being our only armed source.
Would you mind expounding on that piece for the slower among us SIMONOV thanks.

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"those who sacrifice
liberty for security deserve neither"
 
It feels like a police state to me, while the amount of time I spend worrying about classic criminals is pratically non existant, in fact what I worry about in regards to them is how fast the cops will arrest me if I hurt one of them in the course of their violating my property or attacking my person, in contrast, the time I spend worrying about state sponsored terrorism is quite high. When I leave the house it's the cops I worry about, not the criminals. Sounds like a police state to me, I have been arrested and thrown in jail for a 3" knife in my car before so don't think that just because you're not doing anything illegal you'll get away.

[This message has been edited by scud (edited October 11, 2000).]
 
US is not as bad as some ohter places. That said, much of what I'd like to use is enforcer-only goodies (LEO mags, NFA, etc.). And I do worry as much about police as I do about freelance thugs.

Two things that make me hope:
-historically, US has come out of all sorts of trouble relatively intact and sometimes in better shape than before (i.e. don't see the KKK around here much)
-every time I talk to real cops (as opposed to the thuggish police admins), I find them to be remarkably upright and decent individuals fully on our side.
 
Its pretty interesting to me when some people say "well, look at such and such country, we have it pretty good compared to them" My answer "since when does America use another country as a guage of comparison". There is no comparison, and when we start using other countries as a guage we are Fu@ked.
 
Dave D, you're right of course, and yet the question is, "Are we a police state?" not "Are we as free as should be?" Obviously we are not as free as we should be, but if you had spent time, as I did, in Communist East Germany, you would know what a police state is like, and we're a ways away from that yet.

It is certainly true that technology is making it easier and easier to spy on and control the population every day.
 
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