Lloyd Smale
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ive got rifles with both on them. the sims seem a bit better for recoil obsortion but the pachs. last longer. the sims are made from a real soft rubber that can eaily be damaged. Both are good pads though and do help.
A 30-06 tears my shoulder up
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It's worth repeating, I think the 2nd or 3rd post mentioned this: the stock has to fit you. Folks who use 12 gauge O/U's for sporting clays, etc. know this. They are very particular about how the gun fits. But, most folks buy a hunting rifle and never give much consideration to this. To make things worse, they typically add a thick recoil pad to cushion the recoil - this just makes the gun longer, unless you've cut down the stock.
Worth repeating
The 6.5 X 55 Swedish Mauser is a pussycat from a recoil standpoint. If you can't shoot a Swede well then you might as well give up shooting. From hunting to targets, the swede is accurate, deadly on game, and underappreciated in this country.
Your only problem is finding a domestic maker that will chamber it.
The 6.5 X 55 Swedish Mauser is a pussycat from a recoil standpoint. If you can't shoot a Swede well then you might as well give up shooting. From hunting to targets, the swede is accurate, deadly on game, and underappreciated in this country.
Your only problem is finding a domestic maker that will chamber it.
My bought my grandson (14) a sporterized small ring Mauser in 7x57 for his first center fire rifle. He has taken a few pigs and a deer with it and appears to be comfortable with the recoil. It's an oldie but a goodie and shoots pretty flat out to about 300 yards with 120gr bullets. The 140gr bullets also shoot pretty flat.
6.5x55
A friend bought a CZ 550 6.5 x55 about two weeks ago, and it too is a tack driver. using ppu 139gr. fmj we both shot three shot groups of about 1/2in.
and I was very much impressed with this rifle and ammo. This round has lots of potential for target and hunting. I might have to get another CZ.
A friend bought a CZ 550 6.5 x55 about two weeks ago, and it too is a tack driver. using ppu 139gr. fmj we both shot three shot groups of about 1/2in.
and I was very much impressed with this rifle and ammo. This round has lots of potential for target and hunting. I might have to get another CZ.
semi_problomatic
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Then why bother with a 6.5 swede? Just shoot a 6.5 creedmoor.
FISHNFRANK
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7mm-08
The 7mm-08 has 40% less recoil than the 06 but actually more power down range at 300 and 400 yards....that is the caliber to get
A .308 has about 15% less recoil too..
Frank
The 7mm-08 has 40% less recoil than the 06 but actually more power down range at 300 and 400 yards....that is the caliber to get
A .308 has about 15% less recoil too..
Frank
A 30-06 with hard butt shot prone is as much recoil pain as I can stand and still concentrate on shooting a paper target.
Get a large Limbsaver recoil pad that is grind to fit, but don't grind it. Leave it 2" wide. You will be able to shoot the 30-06 all day.
With that pad I can shoot the 338 Win Mag all day, with hot loads and 250 gr bullets.
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=18220/Product/LIMBSAVER-trade-GRIND-TO-FIT-PADS
Art Eatman
Staff in Memoriam
Figuring comparative recoil for equal-weight rifles is simple. Just add the bullet weight and the powder charge's weight and multiply by the muzzle velocity. That lets you calculate the percentage difference.
The 7mm08, .308 and '06 all have approximately the same muzzle velocity in their common loadings; roughly 2,900 ft/sec, give or take a hundred. In this example, then, the muzzle velocity doesn't need to be included.
So, for the 7mm08, 140 + 45 = 185. For the .308, 150 + 45 = 195. '06, 150 + 50 = 200.
So the 7mm08 is about 7.5% less recoil than an equal-weight '06; the .308 is really close to being the same as an '06.
The 7mm08, .308 and '06 all have approximately the same muzzle velocity in their common loadings; roughly 2,900 ft/sec, give or take a hundred. In this example, then, the muzzle velocity doesn't need to be included.
So, for the 7mm08, 140 + 45 = 185. For the .308, 150 + 45 = 195. '06, 150 + 50 = 200.
So the 7mm08 is about 7.5% less recoil than an equal-weight '06; the .308 is really close to being the same as an '06.
UnbearablePanda
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Pretty interesting how madison has yet to respond again.
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So the 7mm08 is about 7.5% less recoil than an equal-weight '06; the .308 is really close to being the same as an '06.Not quite, Art. Using a recoil calcualtor, the 7mm-08 with a 140 grain bullet at 2900 fps has 14 pounds of recoil with an 8 pound rifle. An 06 150 grain at 2900 has 17.6 pounds of recoil in an 8 pound rifle for a 21% difference.