9mm vs .357 magnum

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Frontsight!:
a .357 Mag revo will shoot .357's for 30 years and keep on ticking (it's built for it)[/quote]

Negative on that, at least for the K-frame (and more recently, the J-frame) .357s. Ditto for the Python. That's why there's an L-frame. Full-house loads will shoot these revolvers right apart.

JNewell
 
MTAA and beemerb..........sorry bout the confusion re my previous post. The Cor-Bon factory ammo is not "defensive". Likewise the data on the Winchester loading is not "defensive". I got the Cor-Bon data off of their price schedule for hunting ammo. The Winchester data came from their reloading specs, same home page MTAA posted.
Point was, 9mm +P 125 may be stout for a 9 but barely a starting point for a 357.
No flames rcvd yet, Sam
 
Defensive uses aside, the .357mag blows the 9mm into the dust. What I mean is that the 9mm makes a better defensive cartridge due to low recoil and good velocity. But...it isn't even in the same ballpark powerwise with "full" power .357mag cartridges. It's true, the .357mag isn't loaded very close at all to it's potential in factory loadings. Pick up any loading manual and you will see 125gr loads in the 1800fps range that are still within SAMMI specs. They may wreck a small frame gun with extended use, but that's the guns fault not the bullets. Obviously you probably wouldn't want to carry rounds like this for self defense, especially in your j-frame smith, but they are well within .357mag potential. I would imaging that a Ruger sp101 could handle them with ease, you however might not.
 
Since I don't reload, could someone recommed a manufacturer that produces full house magnum loads ?

P.S. I don't like Corbon and I find them to be overpriced.
 
You're not going to find full power loads from any company that I know of, specifically because there are small frame guns out there that just couldn't take it. Remington and Federal make some pretty good rounds. Remington makes both the 125gr GS at about 1220fps and a 125gr SJHP at 1450fps. Federal makes a 140gr Hi-shok at about 1300fps that looks good too.
 
MTAA...I agree with you on the price of Cor-Bon, tis high. I do like the very low amount of flash from their defensive loads and the reddish colour of the flash. Night vision relatively undisturbed from shot, allowing the next shot to be aimed. I use em for carry because of the flash situation plus they seem to be very accurate through a 2.5" bbl and rather mild.
For other than defensive, I shoot handrolled stuff. The only major power hunting loads over the counter I have seen are from Cor-Bon, and they are not full house. 180gr at 1265fps and 200gr at 1200. Both at 640 ft/lbs.
Our litiginous society pretty well precludes any commercial full strength .357 stuff.

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Having carried and shot both the .357 and the 9mm, here's my two cents: Velocity being equal, I would favor the .357 over the 9mm for the simple reason that there is more exposed lead (hence a more easily upset bullet) with the .357. Compare a Remington 125gr SJHP to any 9mm hp bullet-the bullet intended for use in a semi-auto has virtually no exposed lead, as it could compromise reliability.
 
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