dalegribble
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i guess it depends if you have a revolver or semi auto.
9mm or .38spl
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oneounceload
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She might like a 9mm revolver then - you never know. If you prefer the semi and she the revolver, keeping the ammo the same is one nice cost measure
+1 on 9mm revolver... I am waiting for Charter Arms CARR in 9mm hoping it's a good one.
Hearing about Chiappa in 9mm too... waiting for that one too.
There are differing opinions about the Taurus 905. Some people have said that the stellar clips are too flimsy, sometimes hard to eject the cases, and the stellar clips are so flexible they will bend if you put too much pressure on them.
I've also heard people complain about rounds falling out of the the not-so-stellar clips.
Hearing about Chiappa in 9mm too... waiting for that one too.
There are differing opinions about the Taurus 905. Some people have said that the stellar clips are too flimsy, sometimes hard to eject the cases, and the stellar clips are so flexible they will bend if you put too much pressure on them.
I've also heard people complain about rounds falling out of the the not-so-stellar clips.
Cheapshooter
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NO VOTE.....
spacecoast
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Spending hundreds more on a 9mm revolver, and learning to use moon clips, is kind of pointless. I agree that they are attractive in some respects, but not necessary for the average HD situation.
.oneounceload
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S&W
As to moonclips, if the gun is for HD/SD, are reloads really an issue? Before all the "better to have a bazillion rounds in the mag" group starts crying, the stats routinely show one to two rounds end the incident (drug related retaliation invasions excluded).
Whether or not it is the best solution is debatable, but it IS another option for the OP since HIS wife is adamant about a revolver
Glenn E. Meyer
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First, as we all know - if you recommend for a gf, wife, daughter, etc.
read - www.corneredcat.com
Next, obviously one should try the gun.
Kathy points out that with a modicum of training, any healthy male or female can master a semi.
My daughter when 14 - and she is not a big female, could rack a G19.
If one doesn't want to train - the vanilla SW Model 10 and one of the lower recoil but quality 38 SPLs, work.
If the gun is too big - then a new Model 60 with a banana grip is a fine gun.
One can even go to the same J frame in a 327 Mag.
Start the stopping, capacity debate again.
As far as the shotgun - why do folks who say that someone who can't rack a Glock is going to find racking and manipulating a much bigger pump gun easier? Never understood that.
read - www.corneredcat.com
Next, obviously one should try the gun.
Kathy points out that with a modicum of training, any healthy male or female can master a semi.
My daughter when 14 - and she is not a big female, could rack a G19.
If one doesn't want to train - the vanilla SW Model 10 and one of the lower recoil but quality 38 SPLs, work.
If the gun is too big - then a new Model 60 with a banana grip is a fine gun.
One can even go to the same J frame in a 327 Mag.
Start the stopping, capacity debate again.
As far as the shotgun - why do folks who say that someone who can't rack a Glock is going to find racking and manipulating a much bigger pump gun easier? Never understood that.
I forgot that the Taurus 905 isn't recomended for +P, and if Taurus doesn't recomend something I definately wouldn't push it 
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spacecoast
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I find a shotgun easier to rack than the average semi, and so does my wife. The shotgun puts much less emphasis on fingers and fine motor skills and more on bigger muscles. Of course a 42 year old Wingmaster might be a bit looser than a newish Glock as well.
But... why would one need to rack the semi for SD... wouldn't it be ready to go? If you're thinking about clearing a malf, then the revolver would have been a better choice from the get-go (not that I'm arguing otherwise).
Glenn E. Meyer
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In a SD situation, you may have carry the gun for awhile. Shotguns are harder to carry.
Folks under stress mess up the rack. It is usually not recommended to keep pumps chambered as they may not be drop friendly.
Keeping a shotgun pointed at someone for longish time is hard. Spare me the shoot 'em all crap.
A long arm is good for a barricade situation but if you to use the phone - oh, well. Flashlight, oh well - grab a kid - oops.
While shotguns are awesome weapons - a lighter carbine is efficacious and easier to use - in the barricade.
Having an untrained person wandering around the house with a shotgun is not optimal. Yep, it works for some. But we argue training and equipment for when it goes wrong - not the average. You need to deal with the extreme risk that is reasonable.
Folks under stress mess up the rack. It is usually not recommended to keep pumps chambered as they may not be drop friendly.
Keeping a shotgun pointed at someone for longish time is hard. Spare me the shoot 'em all crap.
A long arm is good for a barricade situation but if you to use the phone - oh, well. Flashlight, oh well - grab a kid - oops.
While shotguns are awesome weapons - a lighter carbine is efficacious and easier to use - in the barricade.
Having an untrained person wandering around the house with a shotgun is not optimal. Yep, it works for some. But we argue training and equipment for when it goes wrong - not the average. You need to deal with the extreme risk that is reasonable.
"Geez I got both."
Yeah, I got the 16-rounds in the FNP-45 and a bunch in the 3.5" autoloading shotgun, but they're just to fight my way to my AR clone. That's a joke, because the old house is only 1350 sq.ft. and the lot isn't much bigger, so anything will likely do.
Seriously, my plan is go out the back door and run to 7-11 and buy beer. Or kick a bucket of marbles down the stairs, then go up through the hatch in the closet, out through the trapdoor onto the flat roof, step over to a neighbor's roof three feet away (been doing it for 31 years to clean gutters and paint the roofs) and hide behind one of the many chimneys. Anyone following me gets to guess which roof I'm on and which 2' x 5' chimney I'm behind. Don't slip, it's 2 or 3 ten-foot stories to the pavement depending on where you cross. I know where the loose bricks are in the parapet walls, too.
Or if I've gone down onto somebody's second floor porch and vanished. Or maybe I went into another attic. Or up into a tree.
Yeah, I got the 16-rounds in the FNP-45 and a bunch in the 3.5" autoloading shotgun, but they're just to fight my way to my AR clone. That's a joke, because the old house is only 1350 sq.ft. and the lot isn't much bigger, so anything will likely do.
Seriously, my plan is go out the back door and run to 7-11 and buy beer. Or kick a bucket of marbles down the stairs, then go up through the hatch in the closet, out through the trapdoor onto the flat roof, step over to a neighbor's roof three feet away (been doing it for 31 years to clean gutters and paint the roofs) and hide behind one of the many chimneys. Anyone following me gets to guess which roof I'm on and which 2' x 5' chimney I'm behind. Don't slip, it's 2 or 3 ten-foot stories to the pavement depending on where you cross. I know where the loose bricks are in the parapet walls, too.
Or if I've gone down onto somebody's second floor porch and vanished. Or maybe I went into another attic. Or up into a tree.
I voted 9mm but I have both. My G17 gen 4 serves as my main HD weapon (bed side gun) for 3 reasons.
1. Capacity (17+1) with quick mag changes, this makes for alot of firepower in a small package should I need it against multiple threats.
2. The ability to mount a laser or flashlight - I currently have a 150 lumen light on the rail
3. Accuracy. I can shoot the Glock better than my 38, which is kind of unfair because my 38 is a snub
1. Capacity (17+1) with quick mag changes, this makes for alot of firepower in a small package should I need it against multiple threats.
2. The ability to mount a laser or flashlight - I currently have a 150 lumen light on the rail
3. Accuracy. I can shoot the Glock better than my 38, which is kind of unfair because my 38 is a snub