Badger Arms
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C'mon. Those 9mm guys crack me up. They constantly claim their gun is equal to the 45. It's like saying, "Yeah, it's just like the Honda Accord." Well, why don't you just buy the Honda then? Good Question.
The 45 is superior. A Fleck of paint travelling at orbital velocity packs the punch of a 458 Magnum but will vaporize when it hits .050" Aluminum on a space ship. Does that mean we should all be shooting flecks of paint? For FMJ loadings where expansion is not a factor, the 45 starts out with nearly twice the frontal area that the 9mm starts out with. and nearly twice the mass traveling at enough velocity for reliable through-and-through penetratioins. This means that the round will penetrate through a body and deposit its energy over a wider frontal area and all in the target.
I'm tired of you 'mm' guys touting the 9mm as the hottest, best thing on the market and the equal of the 45. The bottom line is that it's a light recoiling, accurate, easy gun to shoot and you can spray-and-pray. Why don't you just use that argument? I like the 9mm too. It's the greatest little pocket-pistol round to come along since the 22lr.
The fact is, it takes much more time and expense to arm an organization with the 45. You have to train them more, you have to spend more time eliminating flinch, and you pay more for the guns and ammo. It's also heavier and too many pansies out there cry when it kicks too much. It's the economics that push the 9mm on to most departments, not the 'superiority.'
Here's a good one, if you had to choose, would you be shot with a 9mm or a 45?
The 45 is superior. A Fleck of paint travelling at orbital velocity packs the punch of a 458 Magnum but will vaporize when it hits .050" Aluminum on a space ship. Does that mean we should all be shooting flecks of paint? For FMJ loadings where expansion is not a factor, the 45 starts out with nearly twice the frontal area that the 9mm starts out with. and nearly twice the mass traveling at enough velocity for reliable through-and-through penetratioins. This means that the round will penetrate through a body and deposit its energy over a wider frontal area and all in the target.
I'm tired of you 'mm' guys touting the 9mm as the hottest, best thing on the market and the equal of the 45. The bottom line is that it's a light recoiling, accurate, easy gun to shoot and you can spray-and-pray. Why don't you just use that argument? I like the 9mm too. It's the greatest little pocket-pistol round to come along since the 22lr.
The fact is, it takes much more time and expense to arm an organization with the 45. You have to train them more, you have to spend more time eliminating flinch, and you pay more for the guns and ammo. It's also heavier and too many pansies out there cry when it kicks too much. It's the economics that push the 9mm on to most departments, not the 'superiority.'
Here's a good one, if you had to choose, would you be shot with a 9mm or a 45?