92 Year Old Woman Defends Home
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stephen426
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You know what I find tasteless? Knowingly permitting drugs to be sold from your home. Knowingly contributing to the degredation of society and the perpetuation of the viscious cycle of addiction. I'm not saying this was the case as the incident is still under investigation. If it is the case, think of how many lives she has had a part in ruining. I don't care who you are (race, religion, color, creed, gender, age, national origin, etc...) If you knowing break the law, be prepared to pay the consequences.
My only reason why believe that she may have been involved was that she was ready with a gun in her hand when the police barged in. She may be one of the rare elderly that happen to carry a gun around while in their house. It could be that she lives in a bad neighborhood and has been burlgerized before. It is also possible that she was well aware of what was going on in her house and maybe even receiving proceeds from it. I guess we will have to wait until the investigation ends before we "really" know what happened.
stephen426
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Like I said in my earlier posts, there were police screw ups. The problems is that it is not cost effective to have constant surveillance on every suspect. You get your warrent and then you go. I suggested trying to confrm that the suspect was indeed present, but I guess most people don't care to read prior posts when the thread is longer than a page or 2.
Are you a 92 year old woman? Maybe carrying at home fits your demographic, but most 92 year old women I know would barely be able to get off a single shot much less, at least 5, and actually hitting her intended targets. Good shooting grandma!
I don't know her health condition, but I would have to assume that she was somewhere near the vicinity of the front door when it was broken down. Most home invasions are not done in this fashion buy guys with the word "POLICE" written across the front in big bold letters. If she was near the front door, she might have notice the police car in front of her house.Thats why I put the word "really" in quotations. Evidence was recovered from her house. Like I said, we don't know whether or not the drugs were hers.
My main point is if she is a drug dealer, I really don't care that it was a 92 year old woman. Do you guys pity the drug pushing gang bangers when they get shot up? Their drugs are just as destructive and addictive.
Edit: I forgot to mention that bullets fired by a 92 year old woman are just as deadly as those fired by anyone else. Food for thought...
WSM MAGNUM
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There is some pieces missing from this story. The media only tells what they want you to hear. So I won`t comment on it. The police do make mistakes sometimes. On the news the reporter said a relative of the woman was involved in drugs heavily, so maybe they thought he was in that house. Who knows.
Apple a Day
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If they have the manpower to have a guy go in and make a buy then why don't they have the manpower - same guy - sit in a car down the street with a radio to wait and watch, make sure the guy doesn't leave before the shock troops arrive?
Can't do it that soon? Have the same guy go back into the house later when they have a warrant and make another buy to make sure the real guy is there.
I ain't no expert but I'm nearly certain there's a better way to pull that off without charging into a house and having a shootout when the suspect isn't at home.
Can't do it that soon? Have the same guy go back into the house later when they have a warrant and make another buy to make sure the real guy is there.
I ain't no expert but I'm nearly certain there's a better way to pull that off without charging into a house and having a shootout when the suspect isn't at home.
With all due respect, sir or ma'am, you sure aren't.
Of course not.
But, here's a subtle reminder for everyone:
SHE FIRED FIRST.
And, keep in mind that this was NOT the panicked spraying of bullets of a frightened person with no experience. These were aimed, deliberate shots.
What does everyone expect, for the police in this case to be bullet sponges? In the same circumstance, what would YOU do?
Now, here's a serious rant:
I am SICK and TIRED of the whining of everyone who champions the cause of drugs.
"Yeah, the war on drugs is useless"
"People should be able to make their own choices"
Fine. I will now issue a challenge to EVERY and ANY member of this group.
If you truly believe that drugs are so harmless, go and get your drug of choice. Any drug will do.
Fire up that splif. Cook up that 8-ball. Bust up that rock, chop the coke, whatever.
Go ahead. I'll wait.
Got everything good and ready? Cool.
Now, turn around and GIVE IT TO YOUR KID. Go ahead. If you don't have kids, give it to your WIFE. If you're not married, give it to the first kid you see. Go ahead, DO IT!!!
You go right ahead, and poison your veins and your body with that crap.
You want to do drugs? Cheer when cops get shot? Go ahead! You wonder WHY you get proned out, why you get plastered all over the hoods of cars, often with VERY little provocation. Want to find out why?
READ YOUR OWN POSTS, ABOUT HOW YOU'RE GOING TO GET BATTLE RIFLES FOR HOME DEFENSE--IN A THREAD ABOUT COPS GETTING SHOT.
READ YOUR OWN POSTS, WHERE THE FIRST POSTER CHEERS ABOUT COPS GETTING SHOT. Yeah, that makes us who wear badges feel REAL good.
Thanks a bunch, folks. Thanks a bunch. :barf:
As a peace officer, I am one one of the most outspoken people I know against No-knock warrants and the militarization of the police.
In this case, this was not the problem. The problem here was that the old lady had drugs being sold from her residence. Whether she knew it or not is irrelevant, as this is her reidence, therefore her job to maintain it.
Officer completed a controlled buy from said residence, garnering probable cause for a search warrant, signed by a judge. The officers, plainclothes or not, executed the legal warrant in the proper manner. The resident fired at officers. We do not know whether she was aware that they were officers or not, but at this time that is merely fluff. The officers maintain the right to defend themselves, and used that right.
Is it tragic? Of course it is. Was there something that could have prevented this? You bet, the old lady could have handled her business better. I hate to be rud, but thats the way it is.
In this case, this was not the problem. The problem here was that the old lady had drugs being sold from her residence. Whether she knew it or not is irrelevant, as this is her reidence, therefore her job to maintain it.
Officer completed a controlled buy from said residence, garnering probable cause for a search warrant, signed by a judge. The officers, plainclothes or not, executed the legal warrant in the proper manner. The resident fired at officers. We do not know whether she was aware that they were officers or not, but at this time that is merely fluff. The officers maintain the right to defend themselves, and used that right.
Is it tragic? Of course it is. Was there something that could have prevented this? You bet, the old lady could have handled her business better. I hate to be rud, but thats the way it is.
Derby FALs
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Powderman.
What if it was prescribed? Name me one drug that hasn't been used by the medical community.
What if it was prescribed? Name me one drug that hasn't been used by the medical community.
Derby FALs
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The Atlanta PD Spokesperson I saw said they had trouble getting the security door open and didn't announce until they were coming through the second door. The woman was likely near out of her mind by then.
Already on top of that Powderman. Had a big old dose of one of my favorite drugs this morning before driving up to my sister's for T-day. I was freaking wired on the drive up, but caffeine will do that to a person. While I was there, I offered samples of another of my drugs of choice to my neice (with her mothers approval), but I guess Saki is an learned taste.
75+ posts (well, less, now). 975 or so reads.
This is one of those embarrassing moments. I wish I had began reading this thread from the start... sigh... In order to get rid of the callous post by a certain member, I would then have to edit or delete several posts that make reference to that post... Not a big deal, unless one considers how many people have already read it. sigh... So. If it looks like your post "disappeared" or was edited, well, I did it.
If you don't know what I'm talking about, that's just as well. Consider it a miner "glitch" in the system. I apoligize for being so tardy.
Someone has a PM...
This is one of those embarrassing moments. I wish I had began reading this thread from the start... sigh... In order to get rid of the callous post by a certain member, I would then have to edit or delete several posts that make reference to that post... Not a big deal, unless one considers how many people have already read it. sigh... So. If it looks like your post "disappeared" or was edited, well, I did it.
If you don't know what I'm talking about, that's just as well. Consider it a miner "glitch" in the system. I apoligize for being so tardy.
Someone has a PM...
Glad to see this thread has been kept open. I reserved any comment pending the final investigation. There are too many contridictory statements coming from the police and DA in case anyone has not notice. It seems on the surface some CYA going on and from the body language and tone of Assistant Chief Dreher, I suspect there is more to this story.
Baba Louie
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Just another greek tragedy in Americas war on drugs.
Cops bought drugs from male who lived there under her roof? Got a warrant.
Bad neighborhood?
At night?
Approached/knocked (whatever), got shot by someone inside?
All hell breaks loose and someone inside dies from GSW?
Turns out she's 92, been living there forever, guy who sold drugs under her roof is nowhere to be found (surprise).
Wait until they find him! You'd think a drug dealer would care enough about others to not put them in jeopardy (yeah, right) or take advantage of them (again, yeah, right)
What a way to go. We all talk about it. (I'll die with guns ablazin', yada yada)
She lived it. Nailed 3 good guys (sad that, but who really knew at the time?) who were just "doin' their jobs". Pretty good shooting for a 92 year old in a high stress mode. Unless she KNEW they were Cops and not thugs posing as Cops.
Don't like the laws? Change the laws. Four (more) innocent victims on the war on drugs in America.
greek tragedies... Hard to get happy after watching them unfold.
Cops bought drugs from male who lived there under her roof? Got a warrant.
Bad neighborhood?
At night?
Approached/knocked (whatever), got shot by someone inside?
All hell breaks loose and someone inside dies from GSW?
Turns out she's 92, been living there forever, guy who sold drugs under her roof is nowhere to be found (surprise).
Wait until they find him! You'd think a drug dealer would care enough about others to not put them in jeopardy (yeah, right) or take advantage of them (again, yeah, right)
What a way to go. We all talk about it. (I'll die with guns ablazin', yada yada)
She lived it. Nailed 3 good guys (sad that, but who really knew at the time?) who were just "doin' their jobs". Pretty good shooting for a 92 year old in a high stress mode. Unless she KNEW they were Cops and not thugs posing as Cops.
Don't like the laws? Change the laws. Four (more) innocent victims on the war on drugs in America.
greek tragedies... Hard to get happy after watching them unfold.
Well, the news has been updated, and I was right about how much would be found.
http://www.11alive.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=88163
http://www.11alive.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=88163
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