9 rounds of .45 versus 16 rounds of 9MM?

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Drakejake

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I have asked this question before: If you were in a bad situation, would you rather have a 9 MM auto with 16 rounds in it, or a .45 with 9 rounds? This is the ratio with Rugers. I would go for the 9 MM because people miss in battle situations and one may encounter more than one bad guy. Now if we are talking Glocks with 18 rounds of 9 MM versus 14 rounds of .45, it might be a closer call.

Drakejake
 
Well for me, I would go with the 45 only if I could have it in a 1911. I shoot 1911s better than any other semi autos.

Now if I was stuck with the same type of gun in either caliber, like say your Ruger situation, I would probably go for the 9mm.
 
In a bad situation I would rather have an AR15 with several 30 rd magazines on hand. But if I had to choose between pistols I would choose the .45. I plan on making all 9 rounds count so magazine capacity doesn't matter too much. If I have more than 9 BG's trying to get to me I need to be planning my retreat rather than fighting.

Good Shooting
RED
 
I would not want to be shot with either one. Those who choose to carry a .45 will get no criticism from me. While I seriously doubt you'll ever need 9+ rounds in a cordite-enhanced social encounter, when I leave the house I carry a Ruger P95 with 16 rounds of 124 gr. Gold Dots. I chose the pistol not for its capacity, but because it fits my hand and I shoot it well.
 
How about a Sig P220A with 8 round's. That
would be my choice, everyday. "A person who
can shoot does'nt need 16, 17, or 18 round's"-
author unknown.

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, Life Member N.R.A.
 
"A person who can shoot does'nt need 16, 17, or 18 round's"-
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I agree with that, being a revolver toter most of the time, but on the same subject...nobody's ever been in a gunfight saying, "I just have way too many bullets in this gun." :D
 
With 1 or 2 extra mags on the weak side ,what you carry should be what you can shoot the best..Dependability should be your first choice, not capacity, unless you are going to WAR..:cool:
 
I wonder if the negative thinking involved in hi cap carry might lead to negative shooting.

Seems that the spectacular miss episodes usually involve 15-17 misses at extremely close range. Wonder if same person with a single shot might have managed to make that shot count.

Sam
 
I would go w/ the 45. In my case, I have hi-cap mags for my 92fs (15+1) and 10+1 for my USP 45. I shoot equally well so I would reach for what ever is handy at the time the SHTF. Given a choice, I would go w/ the larger, heavier round. ;)
 
And if I could have a Poly 40/357 I would have another choice.

Since I carry either my KP95DAO or my KP97DAO 95%+ of the time this is right up my alley. I use a 115 gr at 1350 in the 9mm and a 185 at 1180 in the 45. I also require that I put at least 95% of my rounds in the head of a B-27 at 25 yds offhand so I don't feel handicapped by either the number of rounds or the diameter of the bullet.

I only wish I had a Poly Ruger in 40/357 to choose from also. In the mean time the Glock 32 will have to continue to pick up the <5% rest of the time carry option.

And I always carry a spare loaded mag.
 
Well, exactly what kind of "bad situation" are we talking about? If I was in the military and faced with a situation where I was a pilot downed behind enemy lines, or with a primary weapon that just became disabled, then 16 rounds of 9mm may very well come in handy. With two spare issue mags I'd also have a total of 46 rounds instead of less than two dozen .45 ACP.

On the other hand, for civilian self-defense it's really to each his own. However, for me it's 8-9 rounds of .45 ACP. The fight will be decided before I'd ever have a chance to empty even a "low-cap" .45, especially given the extremely close distances of a typical encounter with a criminal and his accomplices. I'd rather increase my chances of stopping him quick with the few rounds I'd actually have a chance to get off before either he or I ended up on the ground.
 
All this talk of high capacity mags is just ridiculous. Real men take the BG's down with one shot. If you can't then you just are manly enough!!! That's why I only carry a single shot 30/06 hunting pistol. If there are more than one bad guy you just line 'em up and take 'em both out with one shot. Of course I carry a spare bullet as back up...........

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-SS
 
You are killing me SouthernShark...I'm rolling!!! My opinion...go with the gun that fits you and that you are confident with...minimum being .38 Special revolver or 9mm semi-auto...Do not be concerned with how many rounds your gun holds as long as it is accurate, reliable, and durable. BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT...always carry reloads and know how to properly execute a reload under stress...or you will most surely have an increased chance of losing a gunfight. Me...I carry a 1911 .45 and a 5 shot .38 fully loaded with 2 spare reloads for each. That gives me 22 rounds of .45 and 15 rounds of .38. If I can't get it done with that, I better be a fast runner or a good bullet dodger. That's all I have to say on this matter.
 
Jeeper....WRONG...Accuracy does not always win, RELIABILITY always wins. It has to go bang every time. A reliable gun that shoots 4 inch groups is a much more effective gun than one that shoots 1 inch groups that jams every third round.
 
Sundance....

I am talking about the skill of the shooter not the accuracy of the gun. A great accurate RELIABLE gun in the hands of an idiot wont do much.
 
9mm. Better for suppressive fire as I leave the scene, which I will do if the situation is not resolved after the first 2-3 shots.
 
Suppressive Fire??? Good God Man!!! This is civilian life we are talking about not the storming of Normandy. I hope neither I nor anybody I care about are innocent bystanders when you decide to empty a high capacity magazine of 9mm while you flee the scene. If you have any intention of pulling the trigger of your gun without knowing exactly where that bullet will hit, then you have no business owning a gun, much less carrying one for self-defense. I hope that I am not the only person on this forum who feels this way!
 
Well, obviously there will be situations in which suppressive fire can be of an advantage, even in a ccw situation. While there are the scenarios where a bg will try and rob you in public, I think most of these situations will take place when no one else is around. I'm not advocating shooting blindly into people's houses or places of work. Home invasion is one possibility. Being caught in a convenience store another. Carjacked out in the middle of nowhere. The situations for suppressive fire do exist.
 
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