8mm surplus ammo help
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is the "Z" in a circle ?,, if so it means your barrel is a czeck barrel and is prolly as you say .318 .
if your reciever has the "s" stamp it just means that the chamber was opened slightly to accept the .323 spitzer bullet which will allow for the 8x57js round ,your barrel in my opinion would be safer to shoot the 8x57j size and stay away from military turk ammo its hot stuff and the gew88 wasn't really meant to take those kind of pressures.
i cast for my 88 and keep to under 1800 fps and below38,000 psi.
YMMV. have a good one .
if your reciever has the "s" stamp it just means that the chamber was opened slightly to accept the .323 spitzer bullet which will allow for the 8x57js round ,your barrel in my opinion would be safer to shoot the 8x57j size and stay away from military turk ammo its hot stuff and the gew88 wasn't really meant to take those kind of pressures.
i cast for my 88 and keep to under 1800 fps and below38,000 psi.
YMMV. have a good one .
http://www.turkmauser.com/models.aspx
Again, I am sure you are correct, I do not know when your rifle became a Turkish rifle, your rifle was a Gew 88 and then became a Turkish Mauser in the last response. First because I do not have to, I do not shoot 8mm57 with .323 diameter bullets in an old Mauser with a .311/.318 barrel, back to the fix-it with the throat reamer, the barrel/receiver? was stamped with an 'S'.
http://milsurpshooter.net/topic/25457/GEW88-S-marking-318-vs-321-vs-323
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F. Guffey
Again, I am sure you are correct, I do not know when your rifle became a Turkish rifle, your rifle was a Gew 88 and then became a Turkish Mauser in the last response. First because I do not have to, I do not shoot 8mm57 with .323 diameter bullets in an old Mauser with a .311/.318 barrel, back to the fix-it with the throat reamer, the barrel/receiver? was stamped with an 'S'.
http://milsurpshooter.net/topic/25457/GEW88-S-marking-318-vs-321-vs-323
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F. Guffey
so what the other bord is telling me is that i could shoot a.321-.323. bullet out of the gun because of the modification adrians i dident see the circle around the z its on the barrel on the top
what is the diameter of the s type round it was modified for it so you should be able to fire it then.
what is the diameter of the s type round it was modified for it so you should be able to fire it then.
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the "s' simply stands for spitzer , the bullet dia would be circa .322---.323..
the reason i say i don't shoot 8js ammo in my gews is 98's have a third locking lug on the bolt the gew88 doesn't and the 98's also have venting holes in the bolt to ensure the shooter isn't hurt from gases from a case rupture,the 88 bolts are not as sophisticated, there is also the split bridge affair on the gew .
when it all boils down to it in theory you can shoot .323 in your 88 ,how does that saying go?,,,,, "if it chambers easilly enough it's good to go" or something like that ,anyway i choose not to.
if you pull a bullet from a commercial say win / rem 8mm and mic it you will find it measures closer to .321, for fear by makers of people shooting their ammo in the 88's (it's a lawer thing!).
all my 88 have no "s" on the reciever so they are not reamed to accept the .323( although they probably will ).
the circle z was a czech stamp and most of the rifles with this stamp were sent to south america, and the bore dia on these rifles can run as tight as .316.
when the turks got hold of your 88 they re-chambered it for the spitzer and it probably shot .323 all it.s service life.
me i'm a wuss so i cast up to a .321 bullet and load light at around 1200-1400 fps ( no need for a g/c at these vel either).
sorry for wandering a bit but i tend to do that alot.
the reason i say i don't shoot 8js ammo in my gews is 98's have a third locking lug on the bolt the gew88 doesn't and the 98's also have venting holes in the bolt to ensure the shooter isn't hurt from gases from a case rupture,the 88 bolts are not as sophisticated, there is also the split bridge affair on the gew .
when it all boils down to it in theory you can shoot .323 in your 88 ,how does that saying go?,,,,, "if it chambers easilly enough it's good to go" or something like that ,anyway i choose not to.
if you pull a bullet from a commercial say win / rem 8mm and mic it you will find it measures closer to .321, for fear by makers of people shooting their ammo in the 88's (it's a lawer thing!).
all my 88 have no "s" on the reciever so they are not reamed to accept the .323( although they probably will ).
the circle z was a czech stamp and most of the rifles with this stamp were sent to south america, and the bore dia on these rifles can run as tight as .316.
when the turks got hold of your 88 they re-chambered it for the spitzer and it probably shot .323 all it.s service life.
me i'm a wuss so i cast up to a .321 bullet and load light at around 1200-1400 fps ( no need for a g/c at these vel either).
sorry for wandering a bit but i tend to do that alot.
romanian ammo (i also have some of that ) is not as hot as the turk fodder you should be o.k with that ,but remember to clean real good when done cos the mil-surp ammo more often than not uses berdan primers which are corrosive so a good clean with water to nuetralize the residue is in order,.
yes, commercial ammo is purposely downloaded for just this kind of situation it will be o.k to shoot in your gew88 (lower pressure than european ammo and the use of a .321 dia pill),
like i mentioned it;s a lawyer thing.
have a great day and shoot forward
yes, commercial ammo is purposely downloaded for just this kind of situation it will be o.k to shoot in your gew88 (lower pressure than european ammo and the use of a .321 dia pill),
like i mentioned it;s a lawyer thing.
have a great day and shoot forward
You have a rifle that is 130 years old, your rifle could be a cobbled together rifle that was updated for use with the local guard 105 years ago, you are contemplating shooting ammo that is hot for a rifle in good shape by today's standard???? Me? I would not shoot that rifle if it was the only rifle I had.
Because a collector/shooter/reloader was told by forms and his smith a .318 Mauser head space gage was not available, I made a set for him, the gages went from .000 to + .024 over a full length/minimum length sized case, he had two 88s, one with .024 thousands head space and another at .018 head space, the .024 he hung on the wall and then wanted to know how to load for the .018, after checking all of his Mausers for head space, he was surprised that so many were .008 or less, one gage fit both chambers.
F. Guffey
Because a collector/shooter/reloader was told by forms and his smith a .318 Mauser head space gage was not available, I made a set for him, the gages went from .000 to + .024 over a full length/minimum length sized case, he had two 88s, one with .024 thousands head space and another at .018 head space, the .024 he hung on the wall and then wanted to know how to load for the .018, after checking all of his Mausers for head space, he was surprised that so many were .008 or less, one gage fit both chambers.
F. Guffey
I got myself 140 rounds of '43 Turkish 8MM on strippers in ammo packs. Very clean looking ammo, can't wait to shoot it. Comparing the head stamps between it and yours, you definitely have Turkish 8MM.
8mm,
You should get a VZ-24 or Yugo Mauser from JG Sales, they're beater rifles but will be a more pleasant shooter, and can shoot all matter of ammo, the 88 commission is a wall hanger. Those VZs and Yugos are so common that you can customize it into a very nice shooter, for a cheap price.
Also, I implore you to use capitalization and grammar, sometimes I can't even understand you.
8mm,
You should get a VZ-24 or Yugo Mauser from JG Sales, they're beater rifles but will be a more pleasant shooter, and can shoot all matter of ammo, the 88 commission is a wall hanger. Those VZs and Yugos are so common that you can customize it into a very nice shooter, for a cheap price.
Also, I implore you to use capitalization and grammar, sometimes I can't even understand you.