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870 Serious-Use Shotgun
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Captain Bligh
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Less is more. I went for simplicity. I got an 870 Express, put on an 18.5" barrel and called it done.
I guarantee an intruder would be just as discouraged meeting mine at 2:30 a.m. as s/he would a tactical, tricked out gun.
RJ
I guarantee an intruder would be just as discouraged meeting mine at 2:30 a.m. as s/he would a tactical, tricked out gun.
RJ
Mannlicher
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Dave,
I felt Avuncular once, but the persipcacious EMT swore that it would not be fatal.
............and I have never had a problem with my factory Mag extensnion on my 870.
I felt Avuncular once, but the persipcacious EMT swore that it would not be fatal.
............and I have never had a problem with my factory Mag extensnion on my 870.
Dave, I read an article, I believe by the departed Mark Penman aka Laissezfirearms, claiming that clamping the barrel to the extension destroys groups on a shotgun barrel...could you describe your experience with clamped vs. non-clamped?And, make sure the bbl is clamped to the extension. Does amazing things to slug groups...
Thanks
In 1981, I was attending an instructors school run and staffed by the FBI. The weeklong course was supposed to upgrade proficiency amongst the instructors and those taught by same. This being Md, most of the slots were filled by politicians rather than line officers, but a few of us managed to squeeze in.
FYI, the brass didn't trust me a darn bit. They needed some decent shooters, and I'd gotten some attention at the range and in the training office.
So I made it, instead of somebody's Brother In Law.
My oldest 870 was there also,halfway through the transformation from GP field gun to "Serious" use. The bbl had been trimmed,peep installed,cone done, but no extension. During the shotgun phase of the training, the head instructor and I talked about slug shooting. I was doing better than most there, and was delighted to have a few days getting paid for shooting up Govt ammo.
The instructor told me that they had discovered an extension generally tightened up slug groups nicely IF the extension was clamped tightly to the bbl. I shot one of his shotguns in a fast and short COF with the 1 oz Winchesters we had been supplied with, got a nice group and noted the ease of recovery.
So, I went to Guns R Us and got a 2 shot extension for the 18" bbl. Next stop the range, and those Winchesters started falling into groups not much more than half the size of those before. I tried the 1 1/4 oz Rottweil Brennekes that were my slug of choice there and then and watched them go into less than 3" at 50 yards, and oft much less.
Same thing for the couple of other 870s I've done or influenced them being done. Less kick, greater accuracy, every time.
A caveat or two...
One,snug the collar up with the padded channelocks/one click method. The idea's to take out all the play in the unit. THEN use the clamp, and do not oversnug there either.
Two, the most accurate slug before may not be the most accurate after.The bbl harmonics have changed greatly. You may have to retest to find the best combination.
HTH...
FYI, the brass didn't trust me a darn bit. They needed some decent shooters, and I'd gotten some attention at the range and in the training office.
So I made it, instead of somebody's Brother In Law.
My oldest 870 was there also,halfway through the transformation from GP field gun to "Serious" use. The bbl had been trimmed,peep installed,cone done, but no extension. During the shotgun phase of the training, the head instructor and I talked about slug shooting. I was doing better than most there, and was delighted to have a few days getting paid for shooting up Govt ammo.
The instructor told me that they had discovered an extension generally tightened up slug groups nicely IF the extension was clamped tightly to the bbl. I shot one of his shotguns in a fast and short COF with the 1 oz Winchesters we had been supplied with, got a nice group and noted the ease of recovery.
So, I went to Guns R Us and got a 2 shot extension for the 18" bbl. Next stop the range, and those Winchesters started falling into groups not much more than half the size of those before. I tried the 1 1/4 oz Rottweil Brennekes that were my slug of choice there and then and watched them go into less than 3" at 50 yards, and oft much less.
Same thing for the couple of other 870s I've done or influenced them being done. Less kick, greater accuracy, every time.
A caveat or two...
One,snug the collar up with the padded channelocks/one click method. The idea's to take out all the play in the unit. THEN use the clamp, and do not oversnug there either.
Two, the most accurate slug before may not be the most accurate after.The bbl harmonics have changed greatly. You may have to retest to find the best combination.
HTH...
Rom, you're welcome. Please let us know of your results, good or bad.
Stan,at least 4 of the 5 870s here could serve as riot guns, stretching the definition a touch to include the 20 gauge YE. What can I say? Shotguns can be addicting....
Some years ago I knew a collector of fighting shotguns. He'd everything from a real Lupara to that High Standard bullpup. Maybe 20 or so, and not a sporting arm in the bunch. He was not a shooter of these, but did take some out once in a while. His HD choice was a Model 12 Trench.
Stan,at least 4 of the 5 870s here could serve as riot guns, stretching the definition a touch to include the 20 gauge YE. What can I say? Shotguns can be addicting....
Some years ago I knew a collector of fighting shotguns. He'd everything from a real Lupara to that High Standard bullpup. Maybe 20 or so, and not a sporting arm in the bunch. He was not a shooter of these, but did take some out once in a while. His HD choice was a Model 12 Trench.