70yr Old Kills Two Punks

quote:you can abstract a particular instance in favor of calling it paranoia.

So me dressed as Rambo in my house...grenades and .50 cal machine gun, lets throw in the bazooka in there also....is that paranoid? or you just gonna write that off as protecting my self?
 
Areas of LA, Oakland, D.C., San FRancisco, and Richmond
where the above is not unreasonable.

In fact, the way things are going in Mexico, that might need to be standard issue for folks on the border...
 
First and for most let me mention that while i seem paranoid by carrying a gun while i sit here typing a post to tfl,i'm not.Infact i stood up and took this picture of what i'm wearing as i type to ya'll.
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I lived in a town where the only thing that happened in the last 4 years was a house fire next door,but 4 years before that a nice little old lady lived across the street from the then owners and was brutally attacked and shot in her home,they still haven't got who did it.No one is safe in any urban,rural,country,or city setting.If they want something they will do what they can to get it,whether it be from you or someone else.

I have a 10 year old,a 16 month old and one on the way,and that gives me even more reason to carry in and out of my house.What are you going to do if 2 b/g's come to your door and instead of knocking they let them selves in.Are you going to have time to gather the kids and run to safety and a gun or are you going to have the means to defend your family on your hip.My motto is this
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it's better to have a gun on your hip than one to your head.
 
I carry almost all the time. Friends and family who notice (most don't because I'm low key about my CCW) have asked me why I always need to carry my pistol. I tell the the truth and say it truly is not an inconvenience to me. I have a very comfortable holster and if I'm sitting in a car or on the couch reading or whatnot and it is pressing into my side I might take it out and leave it sitting beside me. And when I stand up again I just put it back in it's home, my right hip! I just never feel like it's a chore or that I have to go out of my way to have it on me. When a BG breaks into your house they might just kick the door down and barge right in. If you don't have your rig readily available you might as well not have it.

I'm glad that with CCW I don't have to make the choice, but if open carry was the only option then the inconvenience factor would possibly rise enough to limit some of my carrying opportunities. I don't like the attention that would surely draw.
 
This video interview is undeniable proof of the value of carrying... NOT "having it handy".
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That having been said sometimes I carry at home and sometimes I just have it handy, but I don't have kids. If I had kids, I would certainly have it ON me, not near me. Children are some of the most inquisitive, resourceful and agile humans around. I would not underestimate how "handy" might be too accessible in my house for a child. As far as questions...children should receive honest answers about firearms so the taboo and curiosity is removed.

So me dressed as Rambo in my house...grenades and .50 cal machine gun, lets throw in the bazooka in there also....is that paranoid? or you just gonna write that off as protecting my self?
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#18indycolts, prepare for some flack :p
Up to this point you stated your opinion and that was okay since everyone gets to make that choice for themselves how secure they feel and to what lengths they will go to protect themselves. I feel the above statement is unfair, though, because you are comparing someone lawfully carrying in their own home (which is legal in the vast majority of our country) to someone who may have gone off the deep end.

You made it clear it's not your choice, but to portray someone who chooses otherwise in their own home as a maniac is just weak IMO. Does the difference of opinions bother you that much?

So, with that out of the way, what did you think of the video interview of the man's story? Keep in mind he was not at home.;)
 
There's nothing you can do if you don't react quickly and have something to defend yourself with.
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Exactly.

If you notice the sequence in which he shot the criminals, it was perfect. One shot to the guy holding the gun. One shot to the other guy. Back to the first guy and one more for the other guy.


Some famous ancient writings come to mind also. You may have heard of the man who said this:

"Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him, "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword."
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...If I HAVE to wear my gun while I'm in MY HOUSE, then I'm moving.
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#18indycolts, I am not going to flame you. I certainly understand where you are coming from. It is a SAD, and TRAGIC day when we have to carry a firearm in our homes to defend ourselves in our own home.

But here's the rub. It has ALWAYS been that way, and will continue to be that way. It doesn't matter where you live (except maybe 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.) or how safe your neighborhood is. Criminals target homes and people at home. Even more perversely, they often target homes in 'safe' neighborhoods because the homeowners likely aren't prepared for them.

Do I believe we should have the right to feel safe at home? Of course. I keep the doors locked and my SP101 on my right hip. That, coupled with vigilance, makes me feel safe.
 
Greetings everyone,

Indy, where do you suggest I/we move? I live in a somewhat crowded city

that has shootings everyday. Even if I moved outside the city to a secluded

area with little or no neighbors I still wouldn't feel totally safe. Just months

ago a older couple that lived in the middle of nowhere were robbed and

tragically murdered by a twisted boyfriend/girlfriend couple.

Something to roll over ;)

Take care
 
Lawyers

I hope this man is left alone, but I can't help but think there is a bunch of "slip and falls" salivating about getting at him. In my experience with lawyers and lawsuits I have sat in disbelief at the tactics these leeches get up to. :mad:
 
If I HAVE to wear my gun while I'm in MY HOUSE, then I'm moving
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where are you going to move.........is there a safe haven on this ball of mud that is void of trouble ............please name one
 
So me dressed as Rambo in my house...grenades and .50 cal machine gun, lets throw in the bazooka in there also....is that paranoid? or you just gonna write that off as protecting my self?
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If it's legal and you can handle it responsibly (and afford it), I'm going to try to become your new best friend, 'cause that's pretty cool. But again, you're really doing a disservice to gun owners by conceding that stereotype to those that would take our firearms away. That sort of thinking is exactly where we get killed in public opinion. Because we're all just a bunch of dumb, redneck, wannabe operators, right?

Dental student in Indianapolis always rags on Cleveland, but I never put forth the claim that I was in the green zone. I generally try to stay prepared regardless.

Quite frankly I almost think a home invasion would be more frightening than an encounter in the street because you have much more to lose and much less chance of a passerby assisting or calling the police. But I'm not saying that you should feel the same way. You attenuate your defense to suit your own tolerances. I just don't think you should criticize someone else for doing what makes them comfortable so long as they're not doing anything illegal or dangerous.
 
I can see several fundamental mistakes the elderly gentleman made:

1. he spent time working in a high crime area with a large amount of cash on his person

2. he let someone see that large amount of cash on his person

3. he allowed himself to become "involved" with a stranger at his door

4. after the event he talked too much in public

Otherwise, he did a good job with the situation and, in the end, was lucky as hell he was still alive.

for instance:
1. they could've come in blazing and spraying
2. when he feigned a heart attack they could have shot him in the head instead of just hitting him on the head
 
Do you guys think you would feel the same remorse as he does? Not exactly remorse for his actions but remorse for what happened?

I mean he did a good thing. Those were obviously bad bad guys who would not have made him their last victim. He probably not only saved his and his wife's lives but others down the road as well. Isn't that something to feel kind of good about?

I guess you really have to be there and have that happen to know how he feels. I'm sure it's awful after the fact but right now I know I wouldn't hesitate to try to end a situation exactly like he did (maybe sans heart attack act!). I guess the time for feeling bad about it comes later.
 
where are you going to move.........is there a safe haven on this ball of mud that is void of trouble ............please name one
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I know of one place that you don't have to worry about getting shot, on a spaceship floating in space LOL.

Seriously, if you stick your head in the sand and think that your home or mall or Starbucks is safe then you are fooling yourself. Read up on the statistics in your area and see how many people have been shot or killed right in their home. Once you realize how many people get hit and how often it happens you will realize that no place is safe. Sure gun-free school zones seem safe until you read about Virginia Tech. All it takes is one trigger happy guy and you'll be glad you have a gun in your wasteband.

I carry at home more and more, not all the time and not in the shower and I for sure never leave my loaded gun 'on the mantle' or anywhere else where someone can get a hold of it. That's just plain irresponsible. I would NEVER leave a gun, loaded or not, out of arms reach. They all stay in my safe or on my person.

But I carry about 50% of the time. I'm sure if I'm ever robbed or shot or worse and I don't have my gun you better believe I'll be upping the 50% stat to somewhere around 100%! The more you know and the more you read (especially on this forum) the more you will carry, I guarantee it.
 
quote:where are you going to move.........is there a safe haven on this ball of mud that is void of trouble ............please name one


I'm going to end this in a positive note, I value everyones opinion and their right to do what they want as long as their not hurting someone else. But my answer to the above statement is this: When I picture someone saying they have to carry at home to feel safe, I don't picture a nice neighborhood. I picture downtown LA during the riots, or some african countries where there is still civil wars going on. The reason I don't feel like I have to carry at home is because I live in a quiet neighborhood, where bullets aren't flying and thugs aren't roaming the streets...my weapons are very handy and my 2 dogs alert me to just about any noise out of place...again, if i needed to carry at home I would move because I wouldn't feel safe if I thought I had to.
 
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