Well I fooled around and found this years deer load. Actually I found several. I won't list the WC852 data only to say it was very accurate and a bit mild as for speed. My bullet choice is the 145 gr. Speer BTSP and the 140 gr. Nosler Partition. The Hornady 139 BTSP shot poorly in this rifle sad to say. However I tried IMR 4895 topping out over book max by 2 grains and getting very good accuracy. But I wanted a bit more velocity for no good reason. My lease is in the panhandle plains region of Texas which has high grass, mesquite and live oak trees and a heck of a long shot is 150 yards. I just today looked the property over and paid for the right to hunt as soon as I could. The bucks are big bodied weighing 200 or a bit more live weight. 8 and 10 points generally in the 120 - 140 class on average though some of the game cam pics showed me a 160 class buck. Originally I was going to hunt Wyoming this year hence wanting the most speed I could get out of my 18 1/2 inch barrel though I would take two rifles on this hunt if I went to it. So I looked for some Big Game powder but alas there was none at the Cabelas, second choice was H414. I worked up to Hodgens book max with no issues and MOA accuracy. Recoil alone told me I was gettin more than I was out of IMR 4895, had to lower POI 1 inch to be at 3 inches high from previous sight in. The 145 Speer seems to be a fine bullet and it printed tight groups with every load tested.