6.5 Creedmoor vs. .260 Rem

I've been shooting my teacher's guns, mostly a .223 and .308 at about 400 yds. now. He also has a custom .260 Rem that I've been shooting - it's the bomb. I am getting ready to buy my own and have decided on a 6.5 and will likely get it in the Savage Model 11 LRH. I'm wondering if anyone has any comments on the 6.5 Creedmoor vs. the .260 Rem? I am doing target work and hoping to get out to 1,000 yds ... eventually. You're thoughts are appreciated.
 
Here's my $.02: The 6.5 Creedmoor's case is slightly shorter than the .260 Remington, eliminating any "Cartridge Overall Length" issues when using .308 Winchester length magazines. A sharper 30° shoulder and reduced body taper allow the Creedmoor to operate at standard .308 Winchester pressures, thus increasing barrel and case life (relative to ???, perhaps referring to .260 Remington?). In effect it could easily be considered a modified Ackley Improved .260 Remington. The Creedmoor case holds about 2 grains less water, but that is a trivial detail. Because the 6.5 Creedmoor is slightly shorter, in theory one could use a longer bullet, but most serious target work is done with handfed cartridges anyway so maybe no big advantage there either. However, since the Creedmoor case has less taper, there might be less bolt thrust. I know high power silhouette shooters with both rifles and they are all convinced theirs is significantly better than the one they don't have. It would be hard to say on the engineering criteria that one is definitely better than the other since they are so similar and there are no apples to apples data to go on. Get the one you like the look of and you should be good to go.
 
I would say the Creedmoor has the POTENTIAL to be more accurate due to its design, and the Remington has the POTENTIAL to be a little faster, due to its case capacity. But the differences in both cases are VERY slight. I would make sure which ever one you choose has the proper twist rate for the bullets you want to shoot.
 
Brass for the .260 is easily formed from .308 brass...... I dunno what you can form Creedmore brass out of. And such a niche cartridge may not be around forever, or even for long ....... get plenty of brass for it when you buy the rifle, if you go that way.......
 
creedmore vs .260

if you want to run a bolt gun go .260 remingtion. if you want to run a semi auto go a 6.5 creedmore.
 
6.5 creedmoor vs. 260 Rem

All good info. - thanks to all of you. I am a bit nervous about the ammo issue. I don't reload. It took me two years to get a handgun in the house. Finally acheived that by just buying it and then asking the hubby for forgiveness. He's just not as thrilled with guns as I am. He's told me "no reloading" so for now - no reloading... It looks like Hornady developed the cartridge so would be the main supplier for a girl like me. A .308 would probably be the safer bet but I only get to shoot a couple times a month so when I go, we put a lot of rounds through. The 6.5 is significantly more pleasant to shoot...
 
Well, he has softened enough that he bought me a Sig 1911 .45 for my birthday. I have my cc permit and he's been now saying that he may get his. Probably because he doesn't want to tell his buddies that the wife protects him!:rolleyes:

I guess the other thing is this... If I ever had the chops enough to do a few competitions, the 6.5 puts me in with the open class right? The "stock" class is normally a factory level .223 or .308. Mind you, this isn't of grave concern unless I just come into some cash I'd like to throw away but I have thought about it.
 
If you do not handload, target shooting with any centerfire is going to be an expensive proposition and can be frustrating because the ammo you can buy might not be the ammo your rifle "likes."

My recommendation; gear up.


There are a lot of different "competitions" and the allowable guns and sights differ, too. See what is done at your available ranges before you spend money on a rifle and supporting equipment.

Shoot your .260 at Long Range (over 600 yards) with iron sights and sling and you are in Match Rifle competition. Put a scope on it and you have Any Rifle, usually said "any any" for any rifle, any sights.

Put it on a rest on the ground and it becomes an F-Open rifle.
 
Only Hornady makes ammo and brass for the 6.5 Creedmoor so that fact is a big red flag for the possibility of the cartridge ending up the way of the dinosaurs in a few years.

Look at a couple of new cartridges that Hornady has introduced in the past several years 30 TC, 17 MachII...I doubt these two will survive the next decade.

The 6.5 Creedmoor may become much more popular down the road but the lack of broad support from the various ammunition makers right now would keep me from endorsing it if I did not reload ammunition.

For long range shooting, what is wrong with the popular and widely available .308, 30'06, .270, .243, 7 mm-08, or .223? Yes, the 6.5 Creedmoor and 260 Rem have some advantages (less recoil, flatter trajectories) but the ammunition costs are a bit pricey if you dont reload and there is the danger of possessing a rifle with hard to find ammunition down the road.

For example, I inherited a .303 British Enfield sporter. Despite millions of .303 rifles made by the British empire, it is difficulty to find inexpensive quality ammunition for that rifle since the .303 was phased out of active British military service decades ago. If I didn't reload, I would be stuck with overpriced ammuntion from Winchester, junk ammunition (terrible accuracy) from Prvi Partisan, or hard to find corrosive surplus.

Shooting factory centerfire ammunition outside what is commonly available can get really expensive quickly. Of course if you reload, you can shoot whatever you want since the component costs are not that much different between calibers.
 
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I am truly in shock Daisy, it is generally the guy that has to go thru that situation in a marriage.,as they say in the real world "you go girl" and convert him,there is hope after all.
 
I am getting ready to buy my own and have decided on a 6.5 and will likely get it in the Savage Model 11 LRH.

I know you said you want the Long Range Hunter rifle by Savage, but because of what you said below:

He's told me "no reloading" so for now - no reloading...

I'd go with a Long Range Precision rifle in .243 Winchester or .260 Remington before the 6.5 Creedmoor.

I know the .243 Win wasn't on your list of chamberings, but it has more ammunition availability than either the .260 or 6.5 Creedmoor. The 1:9.25 twist should let you use 105 and 107 grain match bullets for long range. Read this article, it helped sway my decision to use a .243 barrel when I went to build my LR rifle. I used a 1:7 twist and had it throated so I could run DTAC and Berger 115 grain bullets and it will allow me to run with the 6.5's at long range.

For you since you don't reload the .243 Win will be a trade off. You'll loose a little long range performance compared to the 6.5 Creedmoor and .260 Rem with factory ammunition, but have far more ammunition options. When you get your Husband swayed into letting you hanload your ammunition the good news is you can easily rebarrel your Savage into either of the 6.5's you want.

BTW my wife is the one with the CCW as well. We bought her a PX4 Storm Compact 9mm last year for her CCW pistols as I didn't think her GP100 .357 was as good of a carry gun. I don't care for pistols very much so I've never bothered with a CCW as I suck at shooting them anyway. BTW she has the Colt M-4orgery as well!
 
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I love you guys! Shooting just takes me to my "happy place".
My concern and perhaps my ignorance regarding the .243 is reach? I am hitting great at 400yds with a .223, .308 and a .260 Rem. My goal is 1000 yds so I'd like to buy a gun that can live up to that - my theory is more is better than less. Having said that, I haven't overcome the flinch factor with the .308 but don't have the issue with the .260. I know it's a matter of practice and getting my mind right. But blonde logic says it makes sense to have less recoil and a flat flying, fast bullet. Add to that the fact that we usually shoot 300 rounds or so when we go... I've shot a super awesome .223 but I don't believe it will have that kind of reach with any velocity past 600 yds or so. I could be wrong... and probably am!
 
recoil

...The 6.5 is significantly more pleasant to shoot...
I totally understand what you mean when it comes to recoil. The catch if a .308 gets to you after a long session at the range, it isn't set up right. If I let you shoot my.308 you wouldn't know you were shooting full house (read hot hand loads) 175 grain rounds unless I told you.

A properly fitting stock is often over looked when we think about recoil management. You would be pleasantly surprised at how much a PROPER FITTING stock will make.

with that being said, a 6.5 with a proper fitting stock would be a really soft shooter.
 
1000 yards

Daisy a 243 with a fast enough twist to shoot the 105 grain amax will work very well at 1000 yards. The 115 DTAC is even better.
 
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