5 or 6 rounds in the magazine for mouse guns?

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I don't like Mouse Guns. I prefer to hunt big Rats.

Here's where keeping rounds don't make a difference of whether it's one week or 100 years.


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All carry guns are capacity +1
I don't believe in the kill springs theory, and Frankly I don't care if it does.. If the mags give me trouble I'll replace them.

I want every single round available especially out of a single stack mouse gun.
 
I had read of the less than 30 in the mag of M-16s from several sources. General Tommy Franks, in his autobiography, who served as a forward air traffic control officer and infantryman in the "Nam" mentioned that as soon as he was in the field the other soldiers told him to not top off the magazine for reliability.

If I expect trouble I prefer my Glock 21 or 19, or even better, my pump action Browning shotgun with double odd buck.
 
Recoil spring wrote:
The Vietnam guys used to run a round or two less in their M-16s for reliability,...

To the extent it really happened and isn't something popularized by Hollywood, it was a set of very different circumstances with very different magazine type from an LCP. Load your LCP magazine with the number of rounds it was designed to hold.
 
Recoil Spring wrote:
The Vietnam guys...

I did check with my father who was in Vietnam from 1969-1970. He told me that what he heard was the infantry units attached to his command would load 2 tracer rounds and then 25 ball rounds. That way, when you saw the tracers you knew it was time to change magazines.

For his own part, he carried an M-2 carbine any time he was outside of his headquarters area since he had been carrying a carbine since he was in Burma in World War II and he would have those magazines loaded with 25 rounds each.

He was required to wear his M-1911 pistol and its magazine was always fully loaded.
 
If I expect trouble I prefer my Glock 21 or 19.

If I expected trouble, I wouldn't go.
I'm unable to predict sociopathic behavior in the populace, psychos are mobile and not completely nocturnal.

I use to (20 years ago) subscribe to "something is better than nothing"
I decided that a poor basis on which to select the tool on which to bet my life.

I've got a Glock 19 and a LCP 380 - the 19 is easier to shoot quickly, accurately, holds more bullets, and the bullets are more powerful.
If I had to defend my life without advance notice I'd rather have the 19 in my hand than a LCP and carry accordingly.
 
"Pretty sure those vietnam springs are much different than the ones we have now."

Wow! Like the VN war was sometime in the dark ages, maybe before the invention of guns!

Jim
Metallurgy has advanced greatly since those times. That was close to 50 years ago.
 
Well for heaven sakes TRY it and see what happens.

Your LCP and your LCP mags might or might not like it but you won't know until you try it with your gun and mags. And then you can come back and with the voice of first hand experience smugly give advice to all us LCP wannabe buyers about what it's really like to own one. ;)
 
I have been carrying only 5 of a possible 6 rounds in my Ruger LCP and Kahr CW 380 pocket pistol magazines as I felt it would preserve the spring tension better and be more reliable. I do rotate magazines with fresh ammo every 3-4 months, and have extra mags for both guns.

The Vietnam guys used to run a round or two less in their M-16s for reliability, and have read of other guns like that, so have adopted this policy. Been looking to boost the firepower output as I kinda feel naked with only 5 rounds late at night, similar to the S/W J frame .38 special snub-nose that I sold off due to limited ammo capability.

Would I be OK for the 6th round in the magazine? These are modern guns and comparing them to something from the 1960's may not be relevant.

Stop worrying, and carry to full capacity.

(Magazine springs are inexpensive.)
 
During my first tour in Vietnam, I was a USAF FAC for Special Forces at An Loc, Loc Ninh, and Song Be, all in lll Corps during '69 and '70. I carried a CAR 15, USAF issue, and never saw a 30 round magazine while there. The Berets that I lived with and supported while in the field all carried 20 rounders for their 16's as well.

Personally, my standard load out for the Bird Dog I flew, aside from 8-2.75" rockets, was two bandoliers of 20 round mags for the carbine, as well as a Browning Hi-Power or 1911.

No one carried any tracer in their mags for the simple reason that you can see tracers coming as well as going...a sure fire method of betraying your position....

I'd advise function firing your defense pistol and determine if it will operate with a full mag...if not, there is something the manufacturer needs to correct. It's a small gun, with a marginal caliber and you need all the capacity you can get.

Best Regards, YMMV, Rod
 
Wolff suggests downloading a round or two for hi-cap mags that will be kept loaded for a length of time. Shooting and rotating will work also. Doesn't sound like an issue in 6-shot mags but I do it anyway.
 
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Loading AR magazines a round or two light is largely to ensure proper seating below a closed bolt with less physical effort.

As for the spring, itself; I believe the prevailing theory is that it is not compression that wears out a spring, but the repeated compression and decompression of said spring. In other words, a spring compressed for ten years would be in better shape than a spring which saw heavy range use for those same ten years.
 
I have always loaded a magazine with the full capacity plus one in the chamber for any semi-auto, small or otherwise. I have never had any problems with them as a result of that.
 
I would do like the vets and download the mag by 2-3 rounds.

With one in the pipe, that's still 4-5 rounds left with a .380, more than enough according to the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
 
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