5 Day Waiting Period for Beer?
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Sad but true. Not to worry, big brother will eliminate the need for beer soon. It causes alergic reations with psychotopics and we know how usefull those are. I am all for this stupid law. It is a GREAT example of how far some pissant beurocrat is willing to go to gain more power. For those who dont belive that it is a never ending cycle, juts poin tout that their 4th amendment rights dont exist if they are having aparty. And they wonder when people get fed up. Sad to say, but freedom is dying the slow death of a thousand paper cuts. Every once in a while some socialist do godder throw some salt on it to see if tis still alive. Unfortunately each time it happens there is less reaction and more mind numbing acceptance. One can only hope and pray that the line will be drawn with a pen rather than a sword.
There should be a 5 day wait for all alcohol. A type of cooling off period. How many people have been upset and what do they do to solve their problems? Straight to the bar or package store to drink the troubles away. How many lives will this save?? Countless. 29 children a day are killed by impulse drinkers. For more info join my new group. PAID
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hueco:
Gusgus, where did you get your name from? Just wondering because there is a great Icelandic band that is name GusGus. Any relation?
Hueco[/quote]
Actually, Gusgus is the name of my largest (150 lb) Rottweiler. When he was a pup, he was a clumsy, chunky, rolling bundle of affection (still is). He reminded my daughters of the chubby little mouse of the same name on Disney's Cinderella. Hence my ArGUS AnGUS, is loveable, loyal, and highly protective, Gusgus.
Gusgus, where did you get your name from? Just wondering because there is a great Icelandic band that is name GusGus. Any relation?
Hueco[/quote]
Actually, Gusgus is the name of my largest (150 lb) Rottweiler. When he was a pup, he was a clumsy, chunky, rolling bundle of affection (still is). He reminded my daughters of the chubby little mouse of the same name on Disney's Cinderella. Hence my ArGUS AnGUS, is loveable, loyal, and highly protective, Gusgus.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LawDog:
Since I brew my own, would I be required to get a FBL? (Federal Beer License)
LawDog[/quote]
LawDog,
Believe it or not, here in Jersey, We're suppose to acquire a "Special Permit For Home Manufacture of Malt Alcoholic Beverages". It costs $10.00 a year, and allows one to brew 200 gallons per year, for personal use.
"I'll give up my brew pots and fermenters when they pry them......."
Since I brew my own, would I be required to get a FBL? (Federal Beer License)
LawDog[/quote]
LawDog,
Believe it or not, here in Jersey, We're suppose to acquire a "Special Permit For Home Manufacture of Malt Alcoholic Beverages". It costs $10.00 a year, and allows one to brew 200 gallons per year, for personal use.
"I'll give up my brew pots and fermenters when they pry them......."
The lunacy spreads. Note how the sheeple willingly line up: "If you had 10 kegs in your house and didn't make a lot of noise, the police would never have a reason to come to your house.".
Another Unintended Consequence - forcing the drinkers further out of town, so the drunks are on the road more often.
http://www.pioneerplanet.com/docs/head6.htm
Officials consider limit of one beer keg per household
ASSOCIATED PRESS
Hoping to curtail loud parties and underage drinking in the college town of Winona, city officials are considering an ordinance to penalize residents caught with more than one keg of beer in their homes.
Under the proposal, which will go before the City Council in a few weeks, residents caught with more than one keg in their homes could be charged with a misdemeanor and face up to $700 in fines and 90 days in jail.
About 9,000 students attend St. Mary's University and Winona State University.
``The idea is, if you curb the party, you curb the underage drinking, you curb the noise and you curb the litter,'' Mayor Jerry Miller said. ``I realize kids go to school and they have parties, and we're not going to stop that -- we're just trying to control it.''
Officials at both universities approached the police to get their help in keeping its students safe.
``The presidents of both colleges have come to me in the past few years saying, `We need help. The kids are getting too drunk and getting injured and damaging property,' '' Police Chief Frank Pomeroy said. ''(They said) we need to get the emphasis on education and not on being a party town.''
Modeled after similar ordinances in St. Cloud and Mankato, the one-keg proposal also comes partly in response to the Rental Housing Code passed in March. That Winona ordinance penalizes landlords for public nuisance arrests made on their property.
If police make arrests three times within a year, the landlord could lose his or her rental license. So landlords wanted help from the city to prevent big parties from getting out of hand.
``What we don't want to do is to penalize the average person,'' Miller said. ``There are some people who have kegs in their house and don't cause any problems. If you had 10 kegs in your house and didn't make a lot of noise, the police would never have a reason to come to your house.''
The proposal is already causing a stir among students.
Those determined to drink are considering block parties where each house would have one keg. Others say they'll just move the parties farther away from town, inching into the rural areas away from the watchful eye of the ordinance.
``I know there are ways around this -- there always are,'' Miller said. ``You can have one keg in the house and two kegs waiting in a car. . . . I mean, I went to school too, you know.''
John Spaeth, 21, a senior at Winona State University, lives at Pepsi House, which has the reputation of throwing the most parties off-campus. The house usually holds parties with five to seven kegs twice a week. He isn't too supportive of the proposed ordinance.
``Uh, that wouldn't be good,'' he said. ``I think maybe it would cut down on big parties, but we'll just probably have . . . parties instead where you fill up a garbage can with juice and hard alcohol.''
Some students say the ordinance could be a deterrent to large noisy parties.
``It's going to stop people from having more parties, and especially large parties that will attract attention,'' said Andy Davis, 23, a sixth-year senior at Winona State.
Another Unintended Consequence - forcing the drinkers further out of town, so the drunks are on the road more often.
http://www.pioneerplanet.com/docs/head6.htm
Officials consider limit of one beer keg per household
ASSOCIATED PRESS
Hoping to curtail loud parties and underage drinking in the college town of Winona, city officials are considering an ordinance to penalize residents caught with more than one keg of beer in their homes.
Under the proposal, which will go before the City Council in a few weeks, residents caught with more than one keg in their homes could be charged with a misdemeanor and face up to $700 in fines and 90 days in jail.
About 9,000 students attend St. Mary's University and Winona State University.
``The idea is, if you curb the party, you curb the underage drinking, you curb the noise and you curb the litter,'' Mayor Jerry Miller said. ``I realize kids go to school and they have parties, and we're not going to stop that -- we're just trying to control it.''
Officials at both universities approached the police to get their help in keeping its students safe.
``The presidents of both colleges have come to me in the past few years saying, `We need help. The kids are getting too drunk and getting injured and damaging property,' '' Police Chief Frank Pomeroy said. ''(They said) we need to get the emphasis on education and not on being a party town.''
Modeled after similar ordinances in St. Cloud and Mankato, the one-keg proposal also comes partly in response to the Rental Housing Code passed in March. That Winona ordinance penalizes landlords for public nuisance arrests made on their property.
If police make arrests three times within a year, the landlord could lose his or her rental license. So landlords wanted help from the city to prevent big parties from getting out of hand.
``What we don't want to do is to penalize the average person,'' Miller said. ``There are some people who have kegs in their house and don't cause any problems. If you had 10 kegs in your house and didn't make a lot of noise, the police would never have a reason to come to your house.''
The proposal is already causing a stir among students.
Those determined to drink are considering block parties where each house would have one keg. Others say they'll just move the parties farther away from town, inching into the rural areas away from the watchful eye of the ordinance.
``I know there are ways around this -- there always are,'' Miller said. ``You can have one keg in the house and two kegs waiting in a car. . . . I mean, I went to school too, you know.''
John Spaeth, 21, a senior at Winona State University, lives at Pepsi House, which has the reputation of throwing the most parties off-campus. The house usually holds parties with five to seven kegs twice a week. He isn't too supportive of the proposed ordinance.
``Uh, that wouldn't be good,'' he said. ``I think maybe it would cut down on big parties, but we'll just probably have . . . parties instead where you fill up a garbage can with juice and hard alcohol.''
Some students say the ordinance could be a deterrent to large noisy parties.
``It's going to stop people from having more parties, and especially large parties that will attract attention,'' said Andy Davis, 23, a sixth-year senior at Winona State.
six 4 sure
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oatka, that sounds very similar to laws that were passed in the town where I went to college.
Did it stop the amount of drinking, not really. However, it was slowed down a bit because the entry age to get into the bars was raised from 18 to 21 at the same time.
Being college students, they found a way around this, they just bought beer 20-30 cases at a time.
Was this a soultion, no. Did it slow the drinking, yes. But, that had more to do with the entry age being raised.
Guess what the final soultion was? Well a former bar owner was elected to the city council, and at the same time a large amount of tax revune was lost due to a lack of UNDERAGE drinkers. SO, they lowered the entry age back to 19.
So I ask the question, do these cities with colleges really want to stop the underage drinkers? I think not. To much of a loss in revune. I think they want them to party without creating too much noise, so they don't get caught.
I find it amusing how cities with colleges bitch and moan about the rowdy students, but take advantage of the 20,000-30,000 students that are trapped there for 9 months a year by passing home rule taxes, having high rent, etc.
It seems to me like they're saying, we enjoying making money off of you every chance we get, but could you please keep it down and not be to much of a bother.
Sorry about the rant.
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Now here we have the mining man, in either hand a gun.
He is not afraid of anything, and he's never know a run,
He dearly loves his whiskey, and he dearly loves his beer.
He's a shooting, fighting, dynamiting, mining engineer.
[This message has been edited by six 4 sure (edited August 14, 2000).]
Did it stop the amount of drinking, not really. However, it was slowed down a bit because the entry age to get into the bars was raised from 18 to 21 at the same time.
Being college students, they found a way around this, they just bought beer 20-30 cases at a time.
Was this a soultion, no. Did it slow the drinking, yes. But, that had more to do with the entry age being raised.
Guess what the final soultion was? Well a former bar owner was elected to the city council, and at the same time a large amount of tax revune was lost due to a lack of UNDERAGE drinkers. SO, they lowered the entry age back to 19.
So I ask the question, do these cities with colleges really want to stop the underage drinkers? I think not. To much of a loss in revune. I think they want them to party without creating too much noise, so they don't get caught.
I find it amusing how cities with colleges bitch and moan about the rowdy students, but take advantage of the 20,000-30,000 students that are trapped there for 9 months a year by passing home rule taxes, having high rent, etc.
It seems to me like they're saying, we enjoying making money off of you every chance we get, but could you please keep it down and not be to much of a bother.
Sorry about the rant.
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Now here we have the mining man, in either hand a gun.
He is not afraid of anything, and he's never know a run,
He dearly loves his whiskey, and he dearly loves his beer.
He's a shooting, fighting, dynamiting, mining engineer.
[This message has been edited by six 4 sure (edited August 14, 2000).]