5 Day Waiting Period for Beer?

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New Ohio state law requires five-day
waiting period for buying beer (really!)

WASHINGTON, DC -- A new law in Ohio that requires a five-day waiting period before buying beer -- yes, you read that correctly -- has Libertarians wondering: How Lowenbrau can politicians go?

"This is the worst idea since Billy Beer," said Libertarian Party press secretary George Getz. "We don't want to Harp on this, but beer-lovers everywhere will be sadder, Budweiser, when they hear that politicians in Ohio plan to treat every drinker like a criminal."

On Wednesday, August 9, a new Ohio law will require anyone buying five or more kegs of beer to fill out a form with the Ohio Department of Public Safety, and then wait five days before picking up the beer.

The law, dubbed "Five in Five," also gives law enforcement the right to search the site of a beer party without first obtaining a search warrant.

Several other states -- including Iowa, New Hampshire, Kansas, and Pennsylvania -- have similar laws or are considering similar legislation, according to Fox News. And Maryland requires all kegs of beer to be registered with the state government.

Politicians said such laws are necessary because some keg parties have become violent -- but Libertarians said this kind of "Nanny State" regulation just Foster's more disrespect for the law.

"Even the most Mooseheaded politician admits these laws will have little effect, since people can just buy four kegs at a time at different locations, or buy beer by the case," said Getz.

"The kind of irresponsible people who hold out-of-control parties are the same people who will casually circumvent this law, while law-abiding, responsible people will be inconvenienced. It
shouldn't take a Pabst Blue Ribbon panel to figure that out."

The Ohio law is especially disturbing because it requires people to give up their Constitutional protections against unreasonable search, he said.

"The Fourth Amendment shouldn't be revoked simply because you want to have a wedding party, or a family reunion, or a neighborhood block party that includes kegs of beer," said Getz. "America's Founding Fathers like Sam Adams would never have stood for such a law."

Instead of targeting everyone, the police should focus just on those irresponsible drinkers who commit crimes, he said.

"If law-abiding adults are enjoying a legal beverage and behaving responsibly, they should not have to worry that police will suddenly show up and demand to search the place," said Getz. "Law-abiding people should not be treated like drunken criminals."

Ohio residents should contact their legislators and demand the repeal of this law, he said -- before it foams over to other states.

"This is a Busch-league law, and it needs to be repealed," said Getz. "This is a Molsen Golden opportunity for Ohio residents to stand up for liberty."

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Kinda reminds one of gun laws, doesn't it! Will the insanity ever end?!
 
As much as I like being an LP member, I cringe every time national puts out another pun-fest press release. For cripe's sake, George and Steve, have some dignity. :o
 
The law, dubbed "Five in Five," also gives law enforcement the right to search the site of a beer party without first obtaining a search warrant.

Ummmm what about the Constitution? Havent they ever heard of that??

If I was having a "party" and cops showed, and wanted to get into my house they better damned well have a search warrent.

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Dead [Black Ops]

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Lawdog, I *wish* it was satire. National has an unfortunate tendency to get cute when they're ripping on a Stupid New Law (you shoulda seen the one about Alabama's ban on sex toys). Makes us look like clowns, IMNSHO.
 
Hey what about those new Heineken keg cans??? :confused: Surely these will be in favor among all the alcoholic gang members. These little "keg can pocket rockets" have the look, feel, and benefits of a full size keg in an easily concealable package. Gosh dammit there needs to be legislation on these things too. No alcohol dispensing devices less that 3 feet tall, 2 feet in diameter and and containing 15 gallons allowed!!!!! :mad:

:D

Medic


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[This message has been edited by Medic (edited August 09, 2000).]
 
It is finally evening out, alchohol is as dangerous as firearms. Why shouldnt there be a waiting period? It sounds stupid, and it kind of is. But, hey a waiting period for guns is stupid too, but we have one.
 
Actually, I rather enjoyed the puns ... what can you do when government goes so batty? You've got to laugh at it sometimes. You've got to Shiner them on ... ;) Ouch.

Unfortunately, friends, this is for real. Read it and weep:

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR> http://www.state.oh.us/odps/news/00-52.htm

New "5 for 5" Rule to Change Requirements for Purchasing Multiple Kegs in Ohio

Date Posted: 07/20/00

COLUMBUS, OHIO (July 20, 2000) – Beginning Wednesday, August 9th, 2000, party organizers who plan on purchasing five or more kegs of beer or malt beverages for consumption at a non-liquor permit premises, such as a private residence, must register the party with the beer distributor.

Called "5 for 5," or Rule 68, and recently approved by the Liquor Control Commission, the new rule is a revision of the Ohio Administrative Code, Sections 4301:1-2 and 4301:1-1-68. With the revision, keg purchasers will now be required by law to sign a form documenting the location, date, time and name of the person in charge of the party where the beer will be consumed. The completed form must be notarized and submitted to the beer distributor at least five working days prior to the date of purchase.

"By signing the form, the purchaser agrees that the alcohol will not be distributed to those under twenty-one years of age," said Lt. Gov. Maureen O’Connor, Director. "This change in policy will allow law enforcement agencies to monitor areas where multi-keg parties are going to be held, and contribute to faster response times."

Distributors will be required by law to forward the completed affidavits to the Ohio Department of Public Safety’s (ODPS) Investigative Unit as part of a notification process to inform the agency of locations of multi-keg parties. In recent years, a number of dangerous situations have occurred throughout the state, including, most recently, a near riot at a 40-keg party in Columbus where police officers were injured. If a distributor is found not to be in compliance with the new policy, they will be issued a citation and appear before the Liquor Commission to receive a fine or permit suspension.

A press conference will be held on Monday, July 24th at 11:00 a.m. to inform the public on the new requirements. The event will take place at Central Beverage Group, located at 871 Michigan Avenue, in Victorian Village in Columbus. Speakers scheduled for the event include: Lt. Gov. Maureen O’Connor, Director of the Ohio Department of Public Safety; Ohio Liquor Control Commission Executive Director Chuck SanFilippo; Investigative Unit Deputy Director Ed Duvall, Jr.; and Ohio Department of Liquor Control Superintendent Rae Ann Estep.

For additional information, please call Susan Watiker, Director of Communications, at (614) 466-4344. For the latest on Ohio safety issues, please be sure to visit the ODPS on the World Wide Web at: http://www.state.oh.us/odps .[/quote]

Since we've seen a couple of tragic, or potentially tragic situations develop lately over such bureaucratic foolishness, let me offer one other note. Someday, somewhere, someone is going to react strongly to this interference. And, when that happens, most people will say their response was inappropriate. But at some point, a person who chooses not to wear their seat belt, wants to smoke a cigarette, forgot their proof of insurance, didn't wear their helmet, wanted to fly the American flag at their condo, or [you choose the liberty he / she forfeited] ... well, they might just draw the line at being unable to buy kegs for their party this weekend because they didn't have 'their papers'.

In no way am I suggesting violence is acceptable for such things. But, I swear, it is foolish for us to restrict liberty further and further, and assume there will be no consequences.

Live and let live. Regards from AZ
 
Coinneach,
I'm so use to National always trying to sound "cleaver" in their press releases, that I don't even notice it anymore. After reading your comment, I went back and re-read the release. All I have to say is "Dang - no wonder no one takes us seriously!"

With all the puns aside, these types of laws scare me big time. Ridiculous legislation, that does nothing to reduce crime, burdens the "law abiding", and further chisels away at the Bill Of Rights.

I'm sure that when they realize that this legislation does not have the intended results, they will reduce the restricted number of kegs to four, then three, two, and finally one. And when that doesn't work, how about licensing all drinkers (with random searches of their homes & vehicles), and having the State AG file a suit against the "Alcohol Industry". Of course, they'll do it all "for the children".

I think I need to go to the range.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LawDog:
Considering the number of puns I have to conclude that this press release is satire.

LawDog
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No Lawdog , just a bit of "LITE" reading .



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TOM
SASS AMERICAN LEGION NRA GOA
 
Yes, it's true! Stupid law,,,5 kegs, wait 5 days and have to let Ohio Liquor agents into the party too. H'mmm if everyone buys 4 kegs each.......
 
My thoughts exactlt, Nukem...I can get a big truck and get 4 kegs from liquor store A, 4 at Liquor store B, 4 at liquor store C, 4 at Liquor store.......Or I can always get some cheap stuff on sale by the case! :D
 
Jeff Thomas: "Someday, somewhere,
someone is going to react strongly to this interference. And, when that happens, most
people will say their response was inappropriate. But at some point, a person who chooses not to wear their seat belt, wants to smoke a cigarette, forgot their proof of insurance, didn't wear their helmet, wanted to fly the American flag at their condo, or [you choose the liberty he / she forfeited] ... well, they might just draw the line at being unable to buy kegs for their party this weekend because they didn't have 'their papers'."

I think you've put your finger on it. The clintons of this country won't be brought up short until they cut off the beer supply.

I'm serious.
 
Freedom is truely dead in America!!

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See if you can find this law here:
http://orc.avv.com/title-43/home.htm

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Dead [Black Ops]

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Time to start brewing your own. A local radio station was talking about this yesterday and people actually supported it. God, people are dumb.

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DUM SPIRO SPERO
While I Breath I Hope
 
What's next, Tap Locks????? Or better yet, you have to lock up your booze n' beer to keep it out of the reach of minors? A permit to buy booze??

WTF!!!! We are doomed as a country!!!!!!

Somebody tell me what a free country is, I forgot.
 
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