460 s&w magnum

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blueovelwookie

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So i have been given the goahead to get a hand gun. I am leaning towards a 460v 5" barrel. i want something big bore, and this gun has my attention. I do not reload. other than cost of ammo, any cons/pros. any and all opinions needed. cause my other options are a 460 rowland conversion 1911 or a socom II.

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Brett
 
Biggest pros IMO- shoots 460,454 and 45LC. Machined for moon clips it can shoot 45acp.

Con IMO- it's not a 500.

I'd like to have one.
 
Seems to me pretty pointless to get a 460 if you only want a 5" barrel. You need at least the 10.5" to make use of the extra case capacity.

Why not just the Casull or Colt, and save yourself a lot of money, recoil and muzzle blast?
 
pros...can't think of one....for my money it would have to be a LONG 460

Cons... it is not a 500:D...if you want a short big bore double action...then the 4" 500 is the answer

I like wood grips on mine
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460XVR

Con: Big Boom! :eek: Pro: Big Boom! :D

I'd say if there isn't a specific purpose to have it, go with one of your other choices. It's essentially a hunting handgun. Mine is a handful as you can see from the pic. They're very flat shooting and they will shoot multiple calibers, but unless you're going to need that big caliber, there's no reason to punish yourself. Don't get me wrong, it's great fun to shoot...for four or five rounds.

Taking into consideration your other choices, I'd go for a 1911. That gun can fill a number of roles.

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I've owned one. Pros: BA MOFO of a gun, cool to pull out and show your buddies. Cons: Pricy to shoot if you do not reload, too big IMO for where I'm from, and very expensive to buy. I sold mine because there isn't anything I hunt that my .44 wont take care of.
 
Biggest pros IMO- shoots 460,454 and 45LC. Machined for moon clips it can shoot 45acp.
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ok hold on... ive been trying to get this wrapped around my head for more than one revolver. if you machine the cylinder out for moon clips (in this case to shoot the .45acp) HOW can you still chamber the other rounds? do you just insert a blank/empty moon clip into the cylinder and then load the RIMMED rounds through it? but that doesn't make sense since the diameter of the clip portion is smaller than the external diameter of the case. if you just put the RIMMED rounds in the cylinder wouldn't the rear portion of the casing be unsupported in the areas that had to be machined out to fit the moon clip introducing the chance of a rim area blow out?! i would think that with the high pressure of the .454 and .460 that would be a extremely dangerous possibility?

i dont mean to high jack, but i have thought about doing this with other guns, and was wondering.

btw i would LOVE to get a 5" .460, its on my list
personally i would choose the .460 OVER the .500 BECAUSE of the fact it shoots the .460/.454.45lc.

i played the .50cal game before and realized that i shouldn't have done it-too impractical
 
ok hold on... ive been trying to get this wrapped around my head for more than one revolver. if you machine the cylinder out for moon clips (in this case to shoot the .45acp) HOW can you still chamber the other rounds? do you just insert a blank/empty moon clip into the cylinder and then load the RIMMED rounds through it? but that doesn't make sense since the diameter of the clip portion is smaller than the external diameter of the case. if you just put the RIMMED rounds in the cylinder wouldn't the rear portion of the casing be unsupported in the areas that had to be machined out to fit the moon clip introducing the chance of a rim area blow out?! i would think that with the high pressure of the .454 and .460 that would be a extremely dangerous possibility?
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I'm not sure how it's done, but I think on the TK customs website they said that 45lc 454 and 460 can he fired with or without the moon clips. You might ask them.
 
get a 460V while you CAN! they are getting harder to find. I LOVE mine I will NEVER get rid of it. Don't let the 500 guys fool you, the muzzle flash and concussion of a 460 is way more impressive then the 8" 500 i used to have;)
plus 454's are awesome and 45LC's are super fun to shoot!

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the reason for the 460, is i like the ballistics of the round. It does seem that the 5" version is almost non-existant. I am still waying the idea of an 8". But i really want a 5", well i think i do?
 
ok hold on... ive been trying to get this wrapped around my head for more than one revolver. if you machine the cylinder out for moon clips (in this case to shoot the .45acp) HOW can you still chamber the other rounds? do you just insert a blank/empty moon clip into the cylinder and then load the RIMMED rounds through it? but that doesn't make sense since the diameter of the clip portion is smaller than the external diameter of the case. if you just put the RIMMED rounds in the cylinder wouldn't the rear portion of the casing be unsupported in the areas that had to be machined out to fit the moon clip introducing the chance of a rim area blow out?! i would think that with the high pressure of the .454 and .460 that would be a extremely dangerous possibility?
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The amount of material removed for moon clips is fairly insignificant. How thick is a moon clip anyway? It's not as though they are reinventing things here. I can't see how head support would be compromised, if done responsibly.
 
Ok here is how i decided.....I contemplated the 8" barrel too but my 500 was an 8" and it is a monster to lug around. I like to be able to carry my guns on my side do i went with the 5" .....but if I really like the performance center model 460xvr with the 7.5" and I like the black ;)

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If this is your first handgun, and you intend to actually shoot it, you are better off starting with something smaller like a 357 magnum. And no, I'm not just saying that because I'm bitter about MY 460 S&W making it's second trip to S&W for repairs.:mad:
 
With and without Moon Clips (Edited to add link)

jborushko said:
Biggest pros IMO- shoots 460,454 and 45LC. Machined for moon clips it can shoot 45acp.
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ok hold on... ive been trying to get this wrapped around my head for more than one revolver. if you machine the cylinder out for moon clips (in this case to shoot the .45acp) HOW can you still chamber the other rounds? do you just insert a blank/empty moon clip into the cylinder and then load the RIMMED rounds through it? but that doesn't make sense since the diameter of the clip portion is smaller than the external diameter of the case. if you just put the RIMMED rounds in the cylinder wouldn't the rear portion of the casing be unsupported in the areas that had to be machined out to fit the moon clip introducing the chance of a rim area blow out?! i would think that with the high pressure of the .454 and .460 that would be a extremely dangerous possibility?

i dont mean to high jack, but i have thought about doing this with other guns, and was wondering.
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About the possibility of a blowout, do a search on on the difference between a "balloon head" cartridge case and a "solid head" or "solid web" cartridge case. There will be pictures beyond what I could describe.

The reason you can chamber and fire loose (rimmed) ammo in a moon-clip modified gun just the way you could before the modification has to do with the fact that when the rear of the cylinder and extractor star is machined out, it is not done to the full diameter of the cylinder. The outer area of the cylinder still has enough metal (completely untouched by the modifications) for the rimmed cartridge to headspace on.

Take a look at a moonclip. The part that clips the cartridges does not form a complete circle around the cartridge. If you cut a moon clip in half, you could even fire 3 45 ACP and 3 45 Colt.

That is, if the machinist did the job that way. Some gunsmiths might mill out the whole cylinder's rear if they did not expect you to ever want to fire rimmed ammo loose, without being in clips.

There are some other threads (with pictures) recently (perhaps on another forum). I will post links (by edit) if I run across them.

check out posts #13 and #9 in this thread
http://www.rugerforum.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=124826
and the enlightening comments in posts 14 and 15.
The posts are not numbered, so just scroll up from the bottom of the first page if you don't want to read the whole thread.

Lost Sheep
 
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Looks, practicality, (comfort?)

TheGoldenState said:
DO NOT put wood grips on it....lol
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Down at the LGS I told the guy I want to put wood grips on my 4' .500

He looked at me puzzled and said he would not suggest it.

It's gonna happen
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Wood grips for looks.

Padded, reinforced shooting glove for practicality.

Notice I did not say for comfort.

Lost Sheep
 
whats a .22? and it is not my first hand gun. i wanted something big bore. i like the ballistics of the 460 better than the 500 magnum. i have owned multiple calibers in hand guns. Right now I carry a delta elite 10MM. i want a big boom.
 
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