.45ACP--Need a little advice here.

AH, PIG PEN, ASSUMPTIONS WILL GET YOU EVERY TIME

Born south of the Mason-Dixon (strike one).
You should see my old lady ('wife', for those PC-types).
I have zero concern over firearm appearance (should have seen the look on a guy's face as he watched me use a Security Six as a hammer).
My full-size carry guns include: 1911 (cast Caspian), one of three 5.5" Redhawks, one of many different EAA Witnesses, one (or two) 4" GP100's, and maybe a small spare or two with them (for company).
I buy my pants 1" bigger in waist; I wear Bianchi 1 3/4" or Hellweg 1 1/2" GUN belt.

I have two aluminum guns (but my wife almost always has one), a S&W M38 and a Taurus PT22.
 
Forget the Mauser M2 if you plan to shoot it very much. They were designed to have a service life of about 12,000 rounds I think. A funky take-down and wierd safety complete the worthless package.
 
OK...I went to look at Springfields.

They have a nice website, too. Many models to choose from. I called and they were very nice. They're sending me a catalog and a VCR tape which will be here before the end of the week. These are some very nice looking stainless or blued pistols!


(That was the gun part. Now for the other part. Sorry Mods, but I need some quick advice from a legal type or an animal lover who know's his stuff--FOR SURE! I "liberated" a mistreated Dalmation this morning. He could barely stand. He's now at the Vet's office where he has to spend a few days in intensive care.
I guaranteed payment to the Vet...I know, I know... he's not mine--but I COULDN'T just watch him die!)

Kentucky Rifle
 
Wow.......lots of "I heards", but no real facts, so here's some real facts.
Fact: Every production 1911 manufacturing company in North America uses castings.
Fact: Every production 1911 manufacturing company in North America uses mim and/or plastic.
Fact: One casting company in particular supplies most of those same manufacturers with their castings.

Draw your own conclusions.

So........now that we got that out of the way, if it works right, and it's pretty, and it's under a grand.....what's the problem?

If your looking for a new pistol, and you have your eye on something that looks good, and feels good, don't let a couple of "I heard this" and "my buddy's buddy told him this" stop ya from getting what you want. Para, Kimber, Colt, Springfield...between them they have millions of customers. If you look, you'll find complaints about each and every one....and lo-and-behold, they're the same complaints!!!! Seems that guns are no different than any other consumer product. No one says anything about the good ones they buy....just the bad ones.

And where does that leave us? If you like it, buy it. Don't let someone talk you out of what could be the gun you always wanted.
 
Blades....are you sure? The Mauser name was purchased by SIG.
They are the manufacture of the Mauser M2. They wanted to keep the billion year old name of Mauser and quality pistols associated with it alive. I dont believe the 12k round hooplah.
And all of this I didnt hear ....I read about the Sig purchase
in alot of gun rags..and why they did it. They also wanted to make a quality pistol and sell it for less money than the "SIG"
name usually implies. Shoot well

http://www.sigarms.com/news/NewMauser_issue.pdf
 
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KR, you might want to take a second look at the Kimber Custom Eclipse. They make this available with combat night sites, and if I'm not mistaken, they also do it in a 'short' version, too. This isn't my photo (courtesy of another TFL'er whose name I forget), but it says all.

PigPen, take heart. Even some 'o us Yankees have our hearts skip a beat when we see something like this. As much a work of art as a tool. Hell... if a gun is just a tool, then the Sistine Chapel is just a church, and Porsche is just a car, right? :D
 

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Rovert...I am in no way shape or form a 45 or 1911 guy...but that gun does things to parts of my body...I cant describe right now.
Too bad its more than my mortgage....shoot well
 
NEWTON; RELATED TO SCIENTIST? 'CAUSE YOUR "'FACTS'" ARE SCREWED UP

AT LEAST TWO 1911 manufacturers are now using forged frames.

AT LEAST TWO 1911 manufacturers use no MIM or plastic parts.

SIG makes a nice gun, but it fits me like a Glock. Except for the higher bore axis. And all the levers and thingies sticking out its sides. And the cheesy plastic stocks. But nice, if the frame doesn't-----no, I won't make that crack. (jeez, I crack myself up LOL)


Isn't this fun?
Buy a Ruger auto; you know EXACTLY what you're getting.
 
since you asked....
I would go for the basic Kimber Classic Custom in .45 ACP, Stainless Steel. I would stay away from their crappy black oxide, or whatever it is, finish at all costs.

The blued models are nice too , I simply have a Stainless Steel fetish;) :D ;) :p
 
ut83 - I don't know what the service life is because I don't have one, but the reason I didn't get one was that it was being sold as a gun for the "occasional or recreational shooter" and the early press releases quoted a factory Rep as saying that the M2 has a service life of about twelve thousand rounds. I know the M2 isn't designed, or built, to be as durable as the SIG Sauer "P" series pistols and therefore not worth spending my money on.
 
Blades....got it.
Surprising coming from SIG. I wonder how much they saved in making a gun like that as opposed to standard SIG standards?
Shoot well
 
Kentucky Rifle...

I like stainless or hardchrome better than the spray and bake polymer finishes. They tend to be brittle and wear quicker. Parkerized guns, if done well, are a good way to go too, if you like "black" guns. I personally loved blued firearms, and with careful maintenance, is possible in hot and humid climes.



Bob
 
As for the M2, I would not recommend it. I shot one last year during a demo day. It was downright aweful. It felt good in the hand but the trigger was terrible. It had a looooooooong mushy trigger pull. Yuck. I don't think Mauser has found much of a market for the gun. In my opinion, you would be much better served by a 1911. If you don't like the Kimber, maybe try one of the higher end guns like a Les Baer etc. If you are set on a compact gun for carry, the Para Companion does look very nice. I have only dry fired one but the DA trigger was very smooth and light. You may also want to check out the Colt Defender.
 
Weshoot........And??? Don't keep us all in suspense!!

Who are the lucky couple? Enquiring minds want to know. ;)
PS: Castings are castings, whether they're slides, frames, thumb safeties, slide stops, etc.
 
Kentcky Rifle, Sorry been busy.
BUt to answer your question It feeds everything. I have not had to send it back and have had no Jams of any kind. I have only about 300 rounds thru it so far. Just got it about a month ago.
And I would buy another thats for sure..

:cool:
 
HK USP .45 Compact

... is what I carry in NC. Pretty hellish summers here too. It doesn't have the magazine capacity as the Glock 30, but it is nicely concealable and the tough as hell coating (intended for extreme environments) serves it very well.
 
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