newfrontier45
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In this case, since the two cartridges are the same diameter and operate at the same pressures, length is the only concern. Pressure curves are a non-issue in revolvers.
That's some fine shooting and illustrates my point. You're using twice as much powder, carrying twice as much revolver yet unless YOU can shoot consistently at 200yds, it's a lot of extra for no good reason.
If I don't know what I'm talking about, then exactly what have I posted that is incorrect or untrue? My basic point is that unless you're shooting deer at 150-200yds, the .460 is unnecessary. Unnecessary weight, recoil, muzzle blast and expense. The X-frames cost quite a bit more than your average standard chambering and are more expensive to feed. If I don't know what I'm talking about, does that mean that it is necessary? Please explain.I trust the readers of the posts have figured out which of us know what we are talking about.
IMHO, 99% of the so-called advantages espoused by .460 owners are inventions designed to justify their purchase. "Because I want one" is a perfectly legitimate reason for owning one and I don't condemn anyone for doing so. I just don't want any would-be first time handgun hunters to think they "need" such a monstrosity to kill deer.
454 casull vs 460 sw
Hello, my name is Gdawgs. I am addicted to big guns. I bought a 460 just because I wanted one.
Did you try two rings and then go to three rings? How does that hawg shoot?
Like I said, ain't nothin' wrong with that! I'm about to have a Bisley flat-top .500JRH built and will use it for deer hunting mostly. Not because I think I need one to slay Bambi but just because I want one. A 440gr at 1000fps ought to do the job.I am addicted to big guns. I bought a 460 just because I wanted one.
Lost Sheep said...There is, in my opinion, not a single deer anywhere in the 48 contiguous stages that cannot be cleanly and humanely taken with a 45 Colt (loaded to the more powerful levels, not the old Black Powder and Cowboy Action Shooting levels).
The 454 is harder to control, practice with and more expensive to feed if you don't handload.
The 460 is harder to control, practice with and more expensive to feed if you don't handload.
The more powerful rounds do reach out to farther distances, but not significatly so (in my opinion) as the sight radius is usually the limiting factor in the clean, humane kill criteria. The 460 does shoot significantly flatter, though, making distance adjustments simpler (as mentioned before in another post).
The more powerful rounds require heavier, less packable guns. The more powerful rounds require more tolerance for recoil and often induce shooters to flinch (so require more practice)
A scoped 460 Smith vs a similarly scoped 454 Casull vs a similarly scoped 45 Colt will do better, sure. Is it worth the extra trouble? I think not.
Codefour said... My SRH 454 actually has more recoil than the .460. The 454 is a great round. I like it very much. I actually got the gun NIB for the trade of a rifle that I had that I no longer shot or wanted.
This IMHO is one of the biggest factors when comparing the 460 to .454 and other cartridges of 454 length. The 460 pretty much pushes your hand into handgun or rifle range. It's one of the things that swayed my decision to go 480 I have a choice I can use my Scoped SRH and have the ability to make most any shot I could with a 460. Or I can carry my 5 1/4" custom BFR holstered and carry a rifle.I tried carrying a rifle too, but after a few days, decided that IF I want to hunt with a handgun, then I should limit my tools to the handgun. So, the size and weight factors become less important since I am essentially comparing the handgun to a rifle/long gun at that point in terms of portability and the handgun wins, even the X-frames.