454 Casull Flinch... maybe a cure?

In May 2000 I worked up 460 Rowland loads in a 20 ounce 45acp Patriot semi with the stock 12 pound recoil spring.
I got a flinch.
I would punch my shoulder forward when I pulled the trigger on a handgun, even a 22 rimfire.

I built a 42 pound triple recoil spring assembly, and never shot the 460 stuff again with a 12 pound spring.
Within a month, the flinch was gone.

What does it all mean?
Never shoot anything that kicks that hard again, and wait. The flinch will go away.
 
Well, the flinch is gone for me or else I caught it early and it never really got started.

I'm more concerned about those Hornday rounds getting stuck in the chambers. Would that indicate a pressure issue or is that somewhat par for course? I'll measure those BVACs vs. the Hornady rds. but I think they are the same length.

I ordered a set of bearings/washers to tighten up the cylinder a tad. When open, the cylinder spins very smoothly when the pistol is barrel down, but not as smooth when it is barrel up. That may usual, not sure.

I read up more on porting and shortening and I don't think I want to do that. The muzzle flip isn't really much of an issue, and the longer I own this revolver the more I like it the way it is.
 
TMD,You load your 460 to the limit & then some.meaning over load.
WOW now thats a great idea.GOOD luck with that.:rolleyes:


Kinda what I thought. I have yet to find any reason to load mine close to max.....much less beyond.



Well, the flinch is gone for me or else I caught it early and it never really got started.

I'm more concerned about those Hornday rounds getting stuck in the chambers. Would that indicate a pressure issue or is that somewhat par for course? I'll measure those BVACs vs. the Hornady rds. but I think they are the same length.


Glad to hear the flinch is gone. If your chambers are clean and clear of any crud ring, sticky extraction is a sign of over pressure. It may not be dangerous in the Ruger, but using a stapler to beat on the extractor rod is a good way to bend it or the crane.
 
I should say 'firm tapping' rather than beating. Range staplers are soft plastic, so I am confident no damage resulted :-) Excuse my Southern love of exaggeration.

All six rounds seemed equally stuck (well, sticky), so I doubt it's a timing issue.

Did some research and I found a thread on a different board... it seems a lot of .454 shooters have had similar experiences with the Hornady .454 XTP rounds. A lot of people accuse the Hornady's of being too hot.

Here's my thought... Rugers tend tend to be somewhat tight and those Hornady's may be somewhat hot. It is not unlikely that my SRH came out of the factory with a slightly under-diameter barrel and is forcing these too-hot rounds. Even though I got it used, I thoroughly examined this SRH when I first got it and honestly think it is a pistol that has only fired a few dozen rounds. I doubt anyone would sell one of these if they loved shooting it as much as I do... I would guess that the previous owner fired a few rounds and immediately decided that they actually did not want a hand held anti-tank weapon.

I'm just going to stick with BVACs (they are cheaper, and almost as much fun) or exact hand-loads (great excuse to buy the equipment) for quite a while longer and save the rest of this box of Hornady's for 6-shot emergencies. In case I'm attacked by an A-10 Thunderbolt II and need to put it down, for instance... or a rabid anvil or something.
 
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Sticky hornady ammo

Question?,When they stick is it right after you fire all six rounds,Open cylinder try to eject.Mine does that with the hornady's also. But I can let it cool alittle & they come right out. Some people say the cylinder swells under heat & pressure & will grab the brass,Dont know myself if it is true. but the cases come out pretty easy if it cools alittle.

Mine only does that with the hotter loads. 1900 FPS. OR better,TO me thats pretty warm.:D
 
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