.45 Colt.... .45 Long Colt.... .44-40

It's a simple regional dialect thing that the anal grammar & technicality police love championing over people. Slang and regional dialect versions of speech are very accepted and well within the bounds of recognized language, so the people who say Long Colt are in fact closer to being right than the speech nazis. That's the wonderful thing about the English language, it's dynamic. :)
 
Thanks for the clarity Hawg in regards to the differnt 45 cartridges. Hey I again learned something today!!
I've been in the hospital.
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I hope the problem wasn't too serious and has been resolved. As it's nice to have you back on-line again.
45 S&W was the .45 Government.
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All I've ever seen in my time was the 45 ACP and the 45-(Long) Colt. Have a question: What is the 45 auto rim cartridge? Could it be the same cartridge as the S&W 45 and 45 Goverment?
 
The auto rim is basically a .45 ACP with a rim. It was designed to be used in in revolvers that require half moon clips.
 
The auto rim is basically a .45 ACP with a rim. It was designed to be used in in revolvers that require half moon clips.
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And the rim is very thick, about .090" instead of the usual .060" so as to take up the same headspace as ACPs in clips. It is not interchangeable with anything else I know of, and is not usable in single actions with ACP cylinders.

Note, there is a thing called the .45 Cowboy which is the length of an ACP with the rim of an LC. Made for real tenderfoot loads. No problem in a revolver but a lever action .45 Colt rifle has to be gunsmithed to handle the much shorter round.

Historical note, in 1906 Frankford Arsenal produced a .45 Revolver round the same as .45 Auto except with a standard rim. I don't know if anybody offered up a revolver to shoot it in the Army trials. The 1909 New Service stopgrap revolver was chambered .45 Colt and the Army loaded special large rim diameter shells for it to give better simultaneous extraction. I don't know why it didn't get the short FA cartridge.
 
Well, I have an interview with a heart surgeon tomorrow. Doc says I have a big artery 90% blocked and three little ones 80%. They can stent the big one and treat the little ones but I'll always have chest pains and wont ever work again. If I have the surgery I can go back to work in a couple of months. Gonna be a long haul with no paycheck. Now back to your regularly scheduled thread.:D
 
Hawg,

I wish you the best of luck with the therapies.

Been following this for a day or so.

Sorry to learn you are ailing.
 
OK, I've got to have a triple bypass and a valve replacement. I've got to have more tests done but the tentative date for surgery is June 11. It will take 8-10 weeks recovery time.


Doc, get ya a drop tube so you can stuff all the powder you can in those cases.:D
 
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