45/70factory 400grain, will they mushroom

LOL..No, if anything I got you if you comprehend what was said. Stay safe and best of luck in the field this fall.
 
Two deer tags, so hope to have some more cast boolits critters taken before the season ends about the first of Dec.

October 10th is the day for general elk/deer around here.

The Elk I took was in an early anterless season in a few units close by.

Outside the National Forest boundry and within one mile of a cultivated field.

Season started Aug. 1st and for me was over by 7:10am.

Apparently I was the first person to take a game animal here in Ideeeeho during the Fall 2011 season.

I tried to file my manditory harvest report later in the day after getting the elk taken care of and the game department could only take reports for the 2010 season.

Guess that kind of put a bee in their shorts, and they took my info after I made a couple of phone calls and sent them an "E" mail. Said they'd enter it for me when they got it up and running for the 2011 season.

Wasn't but a couple of days and they had it ready to take reports.

Guess they didn't figure anyone would tag out that early.

Oh, and just another thought, taking a critter inside the front shoulder on a quartering shot, -------------- probably should try for a bit higher and into the neck/down the spine!

Took a deer head on one time - center of chest - and the "J" boolit expansion pushed the rib tissues FULL of recently eaten grass. What a mess. Cut away all the ribs and tissue as it was just full of the green goo.

If hit higher, I'd loose some backstrap, but wouldn't have the mess to deal with.

Hope the big/heavy and slower cast boolit would not cause the same effect.

Keep em coming!

Crusty Deary Ol'Coot
 
I don't remember the qoute exactly, but it went something like: "A 30 caliber may, or may not expand, but a 45 sure as heck ain't gonna shrink." It does a fine job at it's original diameter. I prefer 405 grain cast with a load of H4895. I don't like to give exact loads, because I think that you should work them up for your own rifle. 405 grain plinking and target loads using Trail Boss are fun, too.:D
 
Coot, I myself would pass every time on a down the spine shot. Too much precious tenderloin in peril. I'd either wait for it to turn or pass completely and wait for the next one that comes down the trail. As far as your head on, center of chest encounter, If you think you had a mess before, I would think it would be trumped using a heavy cast projectile. It will pass through paunch, guts and out his tailpipe at very least if perfectly head on & center chest and if angled slightly or if brisket bone diverts it ever so slightly you have a real chance of clipping some round on an inside rear quarter. That my friend would be one nasty field dress.

Sensai, I would wager your Trail Boss plinking loads would aptly fill a freezer given the chance .

The fellow in the attached picture was a quartering to me shot, felled with my 30-06 a few seasons ago. Both shoulders were perfectly intact, all meat saved including the oh so valuable heart & liver cuts. Regards.
 

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Al57,

The jury is still out on the cast boolit thing.

Should have started this cast boolit hunting at a much younger age!

However, the one that went through the elk paunch, Aug 1st., just punched a hole in and out.

Now, it was after taking out the shoulder and one rib, but it was still pushing a big and almost flat nose.

So, as said the jury is still out.

I was a bit awed at what I saw in last year's deer. Hit it a bit high on a side to side, and it just cleared a three or four inch path through the spine. It was just GONE!

That was with a 355gr boolit at a muzzle velocity of 2290fps - critter at about 100yds.

I have read for a long time that you can eat right up to the boolit hole with a cast boolit.

I'm just wondering if that is true, but the hole is just pretty big.

These big meplat cast slugs just kill way out of reason considering the speed or lack there of.

Hope to have more hand's on info on the subject by the end of this hunting season.

Keep em coming!

Crusty Deary Ol'Coot
 
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