45-70 Assault Rifle

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Has anyone ever attempted an assault rifle chambered in something like 45-70, .444, .450 or the like? I suppose the .458 socom and .50 beowulf fills that gap but I'd be curious to see an assault rifle chambered in a more reliable dangerous game stopping round. Thoughts?
 
Considering the 458 SOCOM does shoot bullets designed to be shot out of a 45-70,I think it fits the answer your looking for.
Most dangerous game is shot at short ranges,and the 458 SOCOM is very accurate out to 200 yards.

I don't think that too many animals will continue after a 405gr slug hits they within that range.
 
I don't think that too many animals will continue after a 405gr slug hits they within that range.
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The 45-70 was designed as a military weapon to shoot other humans. During the 1870's-1890's it was considered a little on the light side for hunting game larger than deer and much larger chamberings were prefered by hunters of the time.

Modern, more powerful loadings are much better than the old black powder level loads, but I doubt if any of those loads would function well in a semi auto unless it were unreasonably large and heavy.
 
the controversial .499LWR, which i own two of, would be my choice to full fill your curiosity, many may disagree, but the fact is, i think from over 7 years of shooting and reloading that beast, i believe with the .499LWR loaded for the intended game, it will easily kill nearly every animal on Earth, (if Ol' One- shot, Howard Hill can kill an Elephant with bow & arrow, i am quite certain a .499LWR also can, He's most famous animal is certain to be the elephant he took in 1950 while hunting and filming in Africa, gaining Howard the fame of being the first white man to kill an elephant with bow and arrow. He used a 41 inch aluminum arrow tipped with an enlarged version of his classic Howard Hill Broadhead weighing in at 1700 grains. The bow he used had a draw weight of 115 pounds.)
i say nearly, therefore quite possibly could do in a Grey Whale, if so it could be the only weapon in AR-15/M4 configuration to accomplish that task, the .499LWR case is 1/10th inch longer than the .50 Beowulf, which as you know the .357 Mag. is 1/10th inch longer than the .38 Special and you can see quite a difference there, likewise the .499LWR vs .50 Beowulf. (pssssst ! don't tell anyone, but the .499LWR, IS basically a .500 Cal. it was called a .499 to keep it from being banned in states that do NOT allow .50 Cal.shooting) the current selection of bullets available for reloading is adequate for the average reloader, i do NOT hunt, (i once did, just don't care to kill animals any more, got nothing against it) i mostly put holes in paper, tin cans plastic milk jugs filled with water etc.

soooo, there you are, my most humble OPINION about .the.499LWR.
 
I've heard of a guy that converted a Saiga .410 to shoot .500 mag
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i wouldn't want to be near by when he shot it, the barrel would be too thin to handle the pressure.., provided it could actually could be done head space, C.O.L., rimmed vs rimless.., don't believe that horse shiite, that is pure internet commando BS !
 
It was on gunco. Barrels would not be to thin because the barrel had been changed to a .500 barrel I do believe. It had alot of work done
 
Well, I have a Browing 1886 lever action so I guess if you go back to 1886 or so and compare the Winchester 1886 to the Springfield trapdoor (the military standard of the day) it would be an assault rifle...for it's time.:D
 
Hello, Not an assualt rifle..but the closest the U.S. army got with the .45-70 to a semi-auto was the gatling gun. However, the British did chamber their 577/450 Martini-henry service cartridge in the full-auto maxim..though they quickly found out they needed drawn brass cases instead of coiled for M.G. use. A .45 cal. black-powder maxim must have laid down quite a smoke screen!
 
By current standards "assault rifles" have full auto capability. Part of the reason for switching to smaller calibers was controllability during full auto fire while another was ammo weight. I'm pretty sure a .450/458 Socom is going to be much harder to control than an M14 and ammo would be much heavier.
 
1873 Springfield Carbine.

Sure Kraig, but assault rifle? You'd have to go 1884 Springfield trapdoor rifle- had a detachable metal pistol grip, and a bayo lug
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It was the assualt rifle in it's day, we didn't have the media telling us what an assualt rifle should be, we had assualt rifles defined by how they were used.

IN THE ASSUALT.
 
The Street Sweeper was available in .45-70. I had one in my hand considering buying it, and it's one of a few that I regretted not buying, even though it wasn't much more than a novelty.
 
I have a Marlin 1895 CB that has a 9 round tube and holds another one in the chamber. After shooting 10, 550 grain "Dozer" killers down range, I feel like I have been "assulted"! Seriously, with that much firepower, if you couldn't hold down the fort with this, you need to practice up on your skills.
Ralph
 
Has anyone ever attempted an assault rifle chambered in something like 45-70, .444, .450 or the like? I suppose the .458 socom and .50 beowulf fills that gap but I'd be curious to see an assault rifle chambered in a more reliable dangerous game stopping round. Thoughts?
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Given that .458 Socom and .50 Beowulf have extemely comparable ballistics to the .45-70, I don't think you can say that they would not be a reliable dangerous game stopping round. If you want a semi-auto assault rifle with .45-70 ballistics, that is what you need to get.
 
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