.44mag question

Nor do I see Bob Munden firing six shots in the blink of an eye with a DA. There are DA shooters and there are SA shooters. Jerry is a DA shooter. I wouldn't expect him to be very good at all with an SA. He (and you!) prefer DA's and that is fine. What I'm trying to make you understand is that proficiency and mindset are vastly more important than any other single factor.


For most shooters I think a DA is a better choice and would result in faster follow-up shots.
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If they are proficient.

The statement you made that caused the discussion was:

"......the last thing I would want to have to remember is to cock my SA revolver."

The response was appropriate and correct. SA shooters don't "think" about cocking their guns. They just do it automatically. If you have to "remember", you're not proficient. Basically, you are not a proficient single action shooter telling proficient single action shooters what is and what is not possible with THEIR chosen weaponry. You have no basis for this other than personal bias.

FACT: I am better with a single action that I am with a double action. Therefore, a double action has no advantages in my hands. Only disadvantages. I have nothing against them and I am not unfamiliar with them. I probably own more DA's than many DA shooters. I simply enjoy SA's more, I shoot them more and I am more proficient with them. If you want to believe that a DA in 'my' hands would be better than the SA that I am more proficient with, you are just plain wrong.
 
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When I draw a revolver the hammer is back, not sure how it got there but it's there, I might as well shoot the first round with a zero creep low force trigger. Otherwise I would have to lower the hammer and then shoot it double action which would take up a bunch of time.
 
Gentlemen,
I have been told that single action is for accurate, aimed precision shooting.
Double action is for when the bear is chewing on your head.;)
 
Well, I sure didn't mean to start a tempest in a powder keg.

My suggestion for the Ruger Blackhawk in .45 Colt was its ability to handle the big slug, a 350 gr. cast lead bullet. The 350 gr. .45 is one of the best to penetrate bone, muscle and tissue. In short, it gets to where it will do the most good. Few other revolvers can handle a steady diet of these slugs.

As to speed, I once killed three cottonmouths in about as many seconds without moving from my tracks, the last shot as it slithered between my legs. This with a Colt Frontier Scout single action .22 L.R.

I do not believe anyone can get off shots any faster with a DA revolver or substantial caliber, such as heavy loaded .44 or .45. These guns kick, and I have the hammer cocked before the gun comes down out of recoil.

Bob Wright
 
A minor tempest, but it's interesting that other than your picture, all the guns suggested on this thread are DA. ;)

Personally, given the OP's situation I would likely be carrying my 6.5" S&W 629-4 Classic DX in a comfortable crossdraw holster. What a great gun.

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What experience do you have with large caliber, heavy recoiling revolvers? For large bears, 300gr bullets at 1200fps is the minimum. If little to none, a 12ga pump with Brenneke slugs is a better choice.
 
Well, the original post didn't specify what type of revolver, just a .44 Magnum, for the possibility of having to defend himself against a disturbed beer.

I countered with the .45 Colt in a Ruger. I love the .44 Magnum cartridge in both Smiths and Rugers, though at my age I am leaning towards the single action sixgun. But from my experience, while the .44 Magnum beats everything else all hollow (except certain wildcats in custom sixguns) for long range performance, the old .45 Colt, loaded heavily as I stated, is just the ticket for up-close-in-your-face smashing power.

And as I assumed from the original post, he wanted something more portable than a shoulder/chest carry rig.

So I'll make no amendments to my original statements.

Bob Wright
 
Don't worry about shotgun penetration with such as Black Magic or Dixie Slugs (neither of these are old foster type slugs.)

In the 'Bone box'...

http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=121981&sid=b004b299ab5045c0fa1eaafac583f141

The Dixie slugs (730 grains!) penetrated 29 inches of wetpack. 416 Rigby round with a 400 grain Partition penetrated 30 inches.

http://www.shootersforum.com/handgun-cartridges/38495-penetration-test.html

Yes the 500 Linebaugh 525 grain Buffalo Bore load at 1097 fps penetrated 50 inches but... bear are not Cape Buffalo.


29 inches is over 2 feet and they included 'bone' in their box test.

Any frontal shot of a bear will connect with either head or shoulders.

No idea about Black Magjic slugs but 600gr at 1500 (true velocity) with hardened slug won't be no foster slug!

And Bernanke makes a 'special forces' AP slug to if you want more!

Oh, and they all kick like the dickens (but so does the .500.)

Deaf
 
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