Fingers McGee
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Uberti discontinued the brass frame models in .44 around 1994 IINM
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.44 cal 1977 Navy Colt, barrel marked COM
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Regarding the 1851 in .44 Caliber
I have a Pietta, an FIE and a Euroarms. The Euroarms is a CCH frame. It is a byoot. Pietta is a CCH fraem with the black two piece grips. The FIE is a brass frame. But all are .44.
What is the deal with the round barreled revolver in .44 much like Leech and Rigdon or Griswold and Gunnison. Both of those were built in .36 but not .44. So does the .44 which resembles an 1851 pattern accept for the round barrel have a historical prototype?
I have a Pietta, an FIE and a Euroarms. The Euroarms is a CCH frame. It is a byoot. Pietta is a CCH fraem with the black two piece grips. The FIE is a brass frame. But all are .44.
What is the deal with the round barreled revolver in .44 much like Leech and Rigdon or Griswold and Gunnison. Both of those were built in .36 but not .44. So does the .44 which resembles an 1851 pattern accept for the round barrel have a historical prototype?
Roberto J, the pics are goods. I can see the COM mark really nice.
At this time, i have not info more about this manufacturer, but i'm still seeking to.
The revolver of Delmar look like an original, such G&G or Manathan, not an Uberti replica prod, but Delmar talk about Uberti, and i guess he know what he says. I'm still trying to look for the mark on the frame, and i can't see Uberti or Italian marks on the pic.
Doc,
I can't believe Colt manufacturing made a protoype of 1851 on cal 44. There is no historic info about that. I think, this period, men were on basic reflexion : .36 to the Navy and .44 to the army. That all !
But nothing is impossible...
Seb
At this time, i have not info more about this manufacturer, but i'm still seeking to.
The revolver of Delmar look like an original, such G&G or Manathan, not an Uberti replica prod, but Delmar talk about Uberti, and i guess he know what he says. I'm still trying to look for the mark on the frame, and i can't see Uberti or Italian marks on the pic.
Doc,
I can't believe Colt manufacturing made a protoype of 1851 on cal 44. There is no historic info about that. I think, this period, men were on basic reflexion : .36 to the Navy and .44 to the army. That all !
But nothing is impossible...
Seb
Sebou
There are some fellows on this forum who are very well informed on the historical prototypes.
In my limited reading I have not encountered a .44 with a round barrel.
So we are in agreement.
I have two replicas in .44 but the question remains, "Replicas of what?"
Bon chance,
There are some fellows on this forum who are very well informed on the historical prototypes.
In my limited reading I have not encountered a .44 with a round barrel.
So we are in agreement.
I have two replicas in .44 but the question remains, "Replicas of what?"
Bon chance,
The 1851 Revolving Pistol was never issued to the Navy. The Navy issued single shot pistols to crews and officers allike. The .44 Revolving Pistol was designed after the Horse Pistols as a lighter weight large caliber gun. The terms 'Army', 'Navy', 'Dragoon' and 'Walker' came along later and were not in use then.
As other members responded, there are no historical navy in .44 calibre ever made. or navy with round barrel on 44
Italian manufacturers did it. That a marketing produced by Pietta, ASM, or other to "have a large panel" for the collector fire arms :barf:
I have a replica colt 1851 cal.44 by ASM and it cheap and not really good to use to fire. I have mixed it with a frame of Uberti. Now it's an Uberti-ASM 1851 cal 44 lol and more secure to get enjoy...
In 1840, for the big guns and carabine every barrel were octogonal, cause the manufacturers were not able to made round barrel. after, they made Walker with the first round barrel, dragoon 1848, 1860 army as u know in .44.
I think that only this models made in this calibre. Those guns were carrying by horses.
Sorry, my english isn't good as well, i hope you understand me... i hope i ve understood you
madcratebuilder
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The round barrel 51 Navy style revolver, chambered in .44 go back at least to the early 1960's from the Italian manufacturers.
I have a brass frame Navy Arms, 1965 dated round barrel 51. No manufacturers marking but I think it's a Uberti from the size of the parts.
I have a steel frame Navy Arms round barrel 51 Navy style in .44. From the late 1950's-early 60's, no date code, no proof marks, just Navy Arms on the left side of the frame, the top of the barrel and "Made in Italy" "G. U." on the right side of the barrel lug. GU=Uberti.
Both these have a smooth cylinder, no roll engraving.
Marketed as a "Confederate Reb" revolver, or "Griswold and Gunnison" or Schneider and Glassick" by both Pietta and Uberti, and surly others.
Welcome to the forum, your English is better than some Americans!
I have a brass frame Navy Arms, 1965 dated round barrel 51. No manufacturers marking but I think it's a Uberti from the size of the parts.
I have a steel frame Navy Arms round barrel 51 Navy style in .44. From the late 1950's-early 60's, no date code, no proof marks, just Navy Arms on the left side of the frame, the top of the barrel and "Made in Italy" "G. U." on the right side of the barrel lug. GU=Uberti.
Both these have a smooth cylinder, no roll engraving.
Marketed as a "Confederate Reb" revolver, or "Griswold and Gunnison" or Schneider and Glassick" by both Pietta and Uberti, and surly others.
sebou said:
Welcome to the forum, your English is better than some Americans!
Thanks too much friends, i m verry pleased to be there with all you, and i m happy you tell me "welcome" on the forum. some news from COM
HI all,
I am becom here again cause i have some new info about COM.
Someone who live in Italia and told me that COM mean :
"COM : Contrini Officine Meccaniche di Contrini Giovanni, Gardone VT, via XXIV aprile"
That all that i could have to this time, but i'm still seeking more and more.
I hope this is help us all to find who is COM.
Seb
HI all,
I am becom here again cause i have some new info about COM.
Someone who live in Italia and told me that COM mean :
"COM : Contrini Officine Meccaniche di Contrini Giovanni, Gardone VT, via XXIV aprile"
That all that i could have to this time, but i'm still seeking more and more.
I hope this is help us all to find who is COM.
Seb
Sebou, Roberto, & Cap
The Via XXIV Aprile part is almost certainly a street address.
It is very common in Italy to name a street in a city or town for the day of occurrence of some notable event. It is always printed on signs or written in Roman numerals. Via means "way". XXIV is 24, Aprile is April. In English, we would say "24th of April Street."
I found a Via XXV Aprile in Gardone, VT (Val Trompia) but not a Via XXIV Aprile.
Remember that we are in wonderment of the initials D.O.M. as well. Using the same logic, is there a gunsmith from approximately that time associated with replica revolver manufacture whose last name begins with the letter "D"?
The Via XXIV Aprile part is almost certainly a street address.
It is very common in Italy to name a street in a city or town for the day of occurrence of some notable event. It is always printed on signs or written in Roman numerals. Via means "way". XXIV is 24, Aprile is April. In English, we would say "24th of April Street."
I found a Via XXV Aprile in Gardone, VT (Val Trompia) but not a Via XXIV Aprile.
Remember that we are in wonderment of the initials D.O.M. as well. Using the same logic, is there a gunsmith from approximately that time associated with replica revolver manufacture whose last name begins with the letter "D"?
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Yes, i think the same as you Doc. I guess that's a logical way.
while, i'm still asking to DELMAR, if he could put some pics of his revovler, looking for the marks, because that is a very interesting search, into this topic, or open a new topic for this seeking.
That's true DOC !
Seb
Hi gents;
As i told on the other post about manufacturers, i didn't found any information about DOM
I bought a DOM revolver model 1851 (.44 !!) but, when i look it nearly it might the letter "D" could be a "C" because the policy used, looks like a complete circle to made the "C" and be confused as the "D".
this is the DOM i ve bought recently :
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Here a model of COM :
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Here an other COM :
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The "C" letter is well marked to this model of pistol as kentuckian (i guess)
Look as well as you can to see the letter and made your point of view...
Seb
As i told on the other post about manufacturers, i didn't found any information about DOM
I bought a DOM revolver model 1851 (.44 !!) but, when i look it nearly it might the letter "D" could be a "C" because the policy used, looks like a complete circle to made the "C" and be confused as the "D".
this is the DOM i ve bought recently :
Here a model of COM :
Here an other COM :
The "C" letter is well marked to this model of pistol as kentuckian (i guess)
Look as well as you can to see the letter and made your point of view...
Seb
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