41 magnum out of a 2.5 inch barrel-is there any point to this?

think RogerC is right about bg ON FIRE.

have had a 415 for a few months now and it has become my
favorite booger gun.

if you like snubbie magnums, you gotta love this one. would
surely hate to fire it without muffs, but, would if the ocassion demanded. if a couple rounds didn't get him, the blast and flame should

am not dissing 38 spec. have those pocket types too and feel well protected from two leggers. the 41 is great fun and a magnificient caliber.

hos
 
Tam,

Got The American Zone when L. Neil released it last year. Do you get The Libertarian Enterprise?

There are lots of books that hook up in L. Neil's multiverse. The Venus Belt was the first direct sequel and The Nagasaki Vector and The Gallatin Divergence hook in, but theres a big ol' pile of other ones. Some are great. If anyone wants a list, check out L.Neil's site: http://www.lneilsmith.com/

PM me if you want to borrow any of the out-of-print ones. :)
 
Years ago - I think it was in a book published in 1968, The Complete Book of Shooting - Jeff Cooper wrote something I've always remebered in a book on shooting edited by Jack O'Conner. (This was before Cooper was beatified in the shooting world.) He said the minimum specs for a really serious handgun cartridge were nothing less than 40 caliber, 200 grains and 1000 fps. It is a handy and valid formula. I know my snubby Taurus .41 meets these criteria, with some room to spare on the velocity.

>Erich wrote: I wish I'd run across a 3" bbl'd 940

This, in my humble opinion, is the ultimate answer in a CCW revolver. It is what I want, too.

This is a great use of 9mm for CCW, a significant step up from .38 Special but still more controllable and pleasant than .357 Mag. To my thinking, it is close to perfect answer in terms of controllability, concealability, power and proven terminal performance. I'd like to see a series of special 9mm bullets/loads developed for the revolver - since feeding is no longer a reliability issue, the bullet profile could be modified solely for terminal performance. Maybe a HP with a semi-wadcutter (vs round nose) profile, or a cup-shaped cavity in a JHP.

>Tamara wrote: Here's my roomie's answer to the same >question, a custom 4" 57:

Tamara, this is like a blue version of my .41 Mountain Gun. I love it. What are those beautiful grips he has on that honey of a .41?


Brian
 
Intersting how many of L.Neil's "visions" have come to pass....

Fall of the USSR? The Internet? Terrorist attack on skyscraper?

I wonder what it would be like it congress hadn't met in 30 years?

Better get some gun content in....

The only downside I can see to any 41 magnum is ammo choices. There just aren't many.
 
Roger, I agree with the ammo problems. I'd hope the situation will get better but it hasn't for years. The .41 has always been a "gun guy's cartridge" (like the 6.5 Swede) instead of a commercial one (probably things would be different had it been released before the .44) and apparently we curmudgeonly types are supposed to prefer rolling our own anyway.

I was flat-out stunned when I read The American Zone at the end of last year, because I knew L. Neil hadn't tailored it to fit recent events (I think it was already at the printer on 9/11). As L. Neil says, "How very convenient ."
 
Trop Z, I agree. I'm glad I've started reloading for the .41, because that's the only thing that's getting me out shooting the .41. $22/box (cheapest I've seen lately) is just too warm for my cheap tucchis.

In my fantasy world, Wal-Mart sells Winchester USA -brand .41 magnum 210-grain SP for $9.95/50.
 
I kinda keep "a lookout" for 41 maggie fodder. You can sometimes find a pretty good deal at a pawnshop. I recently got a box (50) of Federal 210gr HP's for $17 bucks 'cause I talked him down from $22.
I shoot my 41 magnum probably half as much as my 357 or the 45 so is it really all that expensive? Not to me it isn't. I still have my 41 maggie stash from a couple of years ago.
Here's some factory offerings;
Rem 210gr SP
Fed 210gr HP
Fed 250gr CastCore
PMC 210gr TCSP
Master Ctg 210gr HP
Win 175gr SilverTip
Cor-Bon 170gr JHP
Cor-Bon 210gr JHP
Cor-Bon 250gr HardCast
Proload 210gr JHP
Georgia-Arms 210gr JHP
Georgia-Arms 210gr LSWC
So, the choices are out there but you certainly have to look for a good deal. Best, John
 
I know this is a Rag Stat...but should be close. Combat Handguns tested a 415 Ti with 210 gr ProLoad JHP's @
1207 fps.....lots of ENERGY....Shoot well
 
Value

I guess it's all relative....if I think about how much I would spend going to the movies....I could easily spend $25 or more, and thinking about it, which is more fun? :)
 
LOL 41 mag snubbie

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If the bad guy didn't already have enough problems with a hole or two in him, he will also BE ON FIRE!!!!!!!!! :rolleyes:
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LOL, thanks RogerC, I needed that. :P
Let me add deaf, incontinent, temporarily blinded, confused, and possibly DRT (Dead, right there!!).

All humor aside, I had a 425 tracker in .41 (Stainless) and the accuracy was not memorable with full power loads.
But the recoil, noise, and muzzle flash were VERY impressive at the time.
I got rid of it and acquired a 657 with a 8" barrel.
That, I will keep.
 
A good reason to load for the .41 is that only a reloader can harness the versatility of the cartridge - I get good accuracy out of my three .41 handguns with everything from mild loads to full-house. For protection, I like a stout load, but still controllable - a good 200 or 210 grain HP which will expand, loaded to say about 1000-1050 fps. (Even at 900 - 950 fps it would be a good defesne round if the bullet is chosen carefully- faster than a +p .38 Special with a much heavier bullet.). The cartridge still isn't popular enough to get all the commercial loadings it deserves.

Brian
 
Okay, I was just in a gun store over lunch, and I noticed that they had a Taurus .41 2.5" in titanium for $425. I had them take it out and show it to me: I've got to concede, it was pretty neat.

Maybe it's worth looking at those $249 CDNN stainless Tauri after all . . .
 
3 inch .44 mag

I had a 3 inch 629 classic carry. It was a pretty cool blaster. Then I got a .41 mag Mountain Gun. I found that the 41 mag was more accruate and not as purely punishing as the .44 mag when shooting full house loads. I decided to keep the .41 mag for my main woods gun and traded the .44 for something else.
 
BANG/SLAP

It has been pointed out to me that the flyweight big-hole snubs offer vicious recoil with correct ammo.

I personally prefer 5.5" Redhawks, and THEY still give ME too much bang/slap.

Pach's, old wrists, stupid ammo.
Yep.
 
I'm not familiar with Taurus revolvers, so this may not be an apples-to-apples comparison. But FWIW my 3-inch .41 Mag revolver (S&W Model 657) is surprisingly easy to shoot. The barrel isn't ported, so I expect the recoil is moderated by the big, all-steel N-frame. It delivers a magnum punch downrange, though I guess not so hard or so fast a punch as with a 6-inch. The noise isn't much worse than my 6-inch Model 57.
 
I just LOVE my .41 Mountain Gun. It is, for me, the ultimate N-frame, better than the M629 or M24 I sold - more controllable and comfortable in my hands, with plenty of power, and very accurate. Great compromise between .44 and .357 mags, and favors the advantages of the .44. Shoots for me like a lighter weight .357 Mag with a lot more to offer. Packs well for big gun. I'd feel quite confident using it for self-defense or even taking a deer at reasonable ranges (limitation here is my eyes with iron sights, more than ballistics). When I think BIG gun, I go for this - or else I get out my rifles in .45-70 or .375 H&H if I feel the need for more.

(I do like my Taurus .41 snubbie for CCW or just dropping in the pack on a hike - if I want more power than a .38 Special (M641), .357 (M65), .44 Special (M696), .40 S&W (G23), or .45 ACP (Ballister-Molina). Ye gads, it's sometimes like picking tie.)
 
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