.41 mag casing rupture
- Thread starter hunter rob
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I wonder if "new" means "new". I don't want to get into dealer bashing as I know too many ethical and honest dealers, and factories do make mistakes.
But problems can also occur between the factory and the customer. I have seen gun shop employees take guns from the case and try them out, damage them, and then return them to the case without telling anyone. I have also seen customers buy guns, damage them, then return them with some excuse without telling the dealer of the damage.
And that doesn't even address the "new" gun bought "on the internet". I saw a Model 29, advertised as brand new on an auction site, that looked fine - on the left side. The right side looked like it had been dragged across a concrete road. The buyer watched as his dealer took the gun out of the box, and went berserk. No hope, though. The seller had closed his e-mail account and disappeared.
Jim
But problems can also occur between the factory and the customer. I have seen gun shop employees take guns from the case and try them out, damage them, and then return them to the case without telling anyone. I have also seen customers buy guns, damage them, then return them with some excuse without telling the dealer of the damage.
And that doesn't even address the "new" gun bought "on the internet". I saw a Model 29, advertised as brand new on an auction site, that looked fine - on the left side. The right side looked like it had been dragged across a concrete road. The buyer watched as his dealer took the gun out of the box, and went berserk. No hope, though. The seller had closed his e-mail account and disappeared.
Jim
Hi, JohnKSa,
Off topic, but wonder if you have heard this classic on writing instructions:
A sailor, checking out the missile system on one of our destroyers followed the manual to the letter. "Connect Pin A to Contact B..." (Whooooossssshhhh!!!!) "after turning switch C to off."
Fortunately, that part of the Puerto Rican coast was uninhabited.
The contractor rewrote that section of the manual.
Jim
Off topic, but wonder if you have heard this classic on writing instructions:
A sailor, checking out the missile system on one of our destroyers followed the manual to the letter. "Connect Pin A to Contact B..." (Whooooossssshhhh!!!!) "after turning switch C to off."
Fortunately, that part of the Puerto Rican coast was uninhabited.
The contractor rewrote that section of the manual.
Jim
I hadn't heard that one, but I can see it happening... So far I've not sent out anything that resulted in a problem that major! (Fingers crossed.)
.41 and .44Mag are pretty close in terms of size, only .019 difference in bullet diameter. I could see a .44Mag cylinder ending up on a .41Mag gun--especially when you consider that cylinders aren't usually marked with caliber.
What made me think the barrel was not a .44 was the fact that the OP didn't complain about accuracy issues.
Glad it all worked out ok for the OP. And while I agree with the folks who said a split case isn't really that serious, I think it's important to understand that it's also not normal, especially if the ammunition is decent quality new factory ammo. I would be very concerned if I encountered a number of split cases--I'd probably stop shooting that gun and ammunition immediately until both could be checked over.
It's happened before and will happen again.
Just for grins; how did you not notice that the ammo wasn't fitting in the cylinder correctly and why did it take a box and a half of ammo to figure this out? .41 magnum ammo in a .44 magnum cylinder is a very slushy fit! The ammo does not line up correctly with the bore which makes for terrible accuracy and it also raises hell with the forcing cone.
Bruce
I sure that the assembler has a bin of parts and he just fits a cylinder assembly and all the other small parts to a barreled frame. The cylinders are not marked denoting which round it is chambered for so it's an easy mistake to make. Now, if you were to insert .41 magnum headspace gages in .44 magnum cylinders, the difference is easily discernible.
Caliber and model number mismarked guns are fairly common and are mentioned in the SCSW. This is a similar type of error. Over at The GunZone website, there is an article about a Colt King Cobra built during one of the relatively numerous periods when the company was having financial (read labor) issues. That particular gun has a smooth bore barrel. The gun went thru normal Colt manufacturing and quality control. What makes that situation even more interesting is that error resulted in shipping an illegal short barreled shotgun to a customer-something ATF takes a very dim view off. Colt obviously demanded the gun returned and the owner refused for a variety of reasons.
In short, stuff like this happens-sometimes more, sometimes less. Nobody is immune. Some Smith collectors claim the Bangor Punta era was the worst. Some will argue it was the L-S regime while some claim today is the worst.
Anyway.........
Bruce
Caliber and model number mismarked guns are fairly common and are mentioned in the SCSW. This is a similar type of error. Over at The GunZone website, there is an article about a Colt King Cobra built during one of the relatively numerous periods when the company was having financial (read labor) issues. That particular gun has a smooth bore barrel. The gun went thru normal Colt manufacturing and quality control. What makes that situation even more interesting is that error resulted in shipping an illegal short barreled shotgun to a customer-something ATF takes a very dim view off. Colt obviously demanded the gun returned and the owner refused for a variety of reasons.
In short, stuff like this happens-sometimes more, sometimes less. Nobody is immune. Some Smith collectors claim the Bangor Punta era was the worst. Some will argue it was the L-S regime while some claim today is the worst.
Anyway.........
Bruce
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hunter rob
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the 41 ammo fit ok actually. it was fairly accurate as well.
i am still waiting to hear back from SW. The shop sent it in 2 weeks ago and they haven't heard a word since. wery disapointed in SW at this point
i am still waiting to hear back from SW. The shop sent it in 2 weeks ago and they haven't heard a word since. wery disapointed in SW at this point