45Marlin carbine
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maybe keep a JHP in the chamber or first in the mag. then FMJ. despite claims to the contrary betch'a won't need more than one well placed shot.
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.380 JHP question for HD
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Bill DeShivs
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The FBI's "recommended penetration" depth takes into account shooting someone in their outstretched arm, as if they were aiming a gun at you, and still hitting a vital organ. It's strange that so many perpetrators were stopped with "inadequate" penetration before this study. Perhaps the bad guys didn't read it.....
Expanding ammunition put the lesser calibers on the map as defense cartridges many years ago. They generally work.
I can not understand why this one "study" is touted so highly by the Internet commandos.
If you happen to hit a bad guy in the outstretched arm, he isn't aware of the FBI's recommendation, he doesn't feel pain, he still has enough muscle control to fire his gun, he hasn't already turned and run away, and is insanely determined to keep coming you might need all that penetration.
Or not.
Expanding ammunition put the lesser calibers on the map as defense cartridges many years ago. They generally work.
I can not understand why this one "study" is touted so highly by the Internet commandos.
If you happen to hit a bad guy in the outstretched arm, he isn't aware of the FBI's recommendation, he doesn't feel pain, he still has enough muscle control to fire his gun, he hasn't already turned and run away, and is insanely determined to keep coming you might need all that penetration.
Or not.
Rifleman 173
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I'd do two things. #1. I would move. I would get a place where I didn't have to worry about shooting through thin walls and maybe striking another person. #2. I would step up to more effective firearms for home defense or personal protection. The .380 guns are nice and better than nothing for personal protection but I would want to use something better to help increase my survival chances.
When I made the move, I would take a long and hard look at how I wanted to be situated in the next apartment building or house. I would also look at the design of the building in that I would look to see if there were brick walls or other design features that would stop stray fire coming at me or going away from me. One thing that nobody tends to think about is that there could be ANOTHER gun owner right down the hallway and if he/she got into a desparate situation then THEIR SHOTS could be coming at you too. So you want to think about YOUR shots and possible OTHER shots coming at you. I would also check out things like exterior night lighting in the common areas of my building and all around the outside at night or for foggy days. I would check the parking situation and access options for moving heavy items in and out of my chosen building and in case of emergency situations. I would check for possible flooding scenarios and whether I want to live higher up in my chosen building or on or below the ground level.
Remember forethought or thinking ahead is the best remedy for defeating possible trouble before it even starts to happen.
When I made the move, I would take a long and hard look at how I wanted to be situated in the next apartment building or house. I would also look at the design of the building in that I would look to see if there were brick walls or other design features that would stop stray fire coming at me or going away from me. One thing that nobody tends to think about is that there could be ANOTHER gun owner right down the hallway and if he/she got into a desparate situation then THEIR SHOTS could be coming at you too. So you want to think about YOUR shots and possible OTHER shots coming at you. I would also check out things like exterior night lighting in the common areas of my building and all around the outside at night or for foggy days. I would check the parking situation and access options for moving heavy items in and out of my chosen building and in case of emergency situations. I would check for possible flooding scenarios and whether I want to live higher up in my chosen building or on or below the ground level.
Remember forethought or thinking ahead is the best remedy for defeating possible trouble before it even starts to happen.