.357 mag or .44 special??

For me it depends on application. I have both. The big heavy 44 mag makes for a good open carry woods gun. The Ruger SP101 with 38 Spl+p makes for a nice ccw carry. 44mag is a bit large for two legs, the 357 just a tad small for the angry 4 legs assailant.
 
For me it depends on application. I have both. The big heavy 44 mag makes for a good open carry woods gun. The Ruger SP101 with 38 Spl+p makes for a nice ccw carry.

If I were an open carry guy, maybe I would carry the 44 mag, but loaded with 44 SPL.
 
I also have a 3" GP-100 which I "can" carry outside the home, but I carry a smaller S&W 442. I use the GP for home defense purposes and it stays loaded with 38spl +P's (HP's). When I am looking for more fire power outside the home, I carry a Glock M23 in a pancake holster pretty much unconcealed. I would use the GP for the same purpose if I carried it.

I sometimes have to work in areas that I am a bit nervous about being there by myself and in those cases will carry the Glock unconcealed or slightly concealed, pretty much police style. It is there to serve as a warning to prospective bad guys to keep their distance. It works. Access to the gun is also much quicker for me since the 442 is usually pocket carried. I have used my Colt Detective Special for the same purpose in a small Galco pancake which I like a lot. It fits very snug to the waist.

I don't own a 44 mag any more. I have multiple 41 mag revolvers in various sizes and will carry a 4" as a general purpse woods gun in a regular belt holster (Bianchi) in the woods. I do have fairly low powered 41 mag loads if I choose to carry those, but usually don't.
 
The .44 Spl is too much the niche cartridge

I love big bores, but the .44 leaves a lot of potential lying on the cutting room floor unless you handload.
The .357 is far more versatile and easy to obtain.
 
Both!! while the 357 may be the most versatile, the 44sp (with hand loading) is a great round and has a bigger and heavier bullet. For woods carry the 44 (hot loaded or mag) and 45 colt are hard to beat, but a 357 with a 180gr is also a good chose.

Personal opinion, no hand gun is ideal for dangerous game, but better than the bigger gun left at camp. Really the gun that you shoot the best and have confidence in is the best chose for you. :)
 
I have something of a love/hate relationship with the .44 Special. On the one hand, I really want to like the cartridge as I enjoy the history of it and I think it has a lot of potential. On the other hand, I've never been able to find a gun or non-boutique factory loading for it that couldn't be substituted with something else which would accomplish the same goals as well or better.

The primary problem that I see with the .44 Special is the low-pressures to which it is loaded. Much like the standard pressure .38 Special, the .44 Special in SAAMI compliant loadings has a difficult time attaining high enough velocities from a short-to-medium length barrel to reliably expand a JHP bullet without the need for a very light and/or fragile bullet which may not penetrate particularly well.

Now, obviously a handloader can address these shortcomings as data is out there ranging from mild factory-equivalent loads to "honest" .44 Special loads like that developed by Skeeter Skelton to low-end .44 Magnum level loads like those of Elmer Kieth. However, even the Skelton-level loads require a large-frame revolver like a S&W N-Frame to handle a steady diet of them. While a large frame .44 Special revolver loaded with Skelton-level ammunition would be a formidable weapon, for roughly the same size and weight one could have the revolver chambered for .44 Magnum and add another level of versatility to the gun.

The smaller guns in which I feel the .44 Special would be most useful, on the other hand, aren't particularly well suited to ammunition beyond standard factory loadings which is what hampers the cartridge in the first place. The Charter Arms Bulldog is well known for not being tolerant of hot-loaded .44 Special ammunition and I wouldn't trust the small, five-shot Taurus and Rossi .44's much further. Even the S&W L-Frames like the 696, arguably the best of the "small" .44 Specials, are limited by a very thin forcing cone which is known to crack when fired with too much hot ammunition.

I have tried to scratch the .44 Special itch on two separate occasions and, in both cases, I was never completely satisfied. The first try was with a Taurus 445 snub. While it looked like a great carry gun at the time, I found that the rather smallish grips made shooting anything more than mild cowboy action loads painful due to the vicious muzzle flip of such a heavy bullet from a 2" barrel. While I could have fitted a set of larger, more comfortable grips, that would have defeated the entire purpose of the revolver: a compact CCW gun. I eventually sold it and put the money towards my 2 1/2" S&W M66-2 and have never regretted the decision.

The second .44 Special that I owned was a beautiful S&W M21-4 in nickel. While that gun was much more pleasant to shoot and I liked it much more than the Taurus, it still eventually proved to have its shortcomings. First, the fixed sights were regulated not for the standard weight of 246gr, but rather for 200gr bullets. While this meant that the POI was dead on with most JHP loadings, heavier 240-246gr LRN practice ammo and my previously worked up handloads with 245gr SWC's shot unacceptably high at 25-30 yards. Also, due to its tapered barrel, it was relatively light for an N-Frame at 37.5oz. While not quite light enough to be appreciably easier to carry than other N-Frames, it did make the recoil with hotter handloads rather unpleasant (I'd envisioned it as sort of a light Magnum). While I really, really wanted to like the gun and kept it much longer than the Taurus, I eventually sold it in order to finance the purchase of a 4" S&W 629. Looking back, if I'd been able to afford it, I wish I'd have kept the M21 and bought the 629 outright (particularly since I later learned that only about 600 M21-4's had been made with the nickel finish).

So, for practical purposes, I've finally pretty much written off the .44 Special. When it comes to a working gun, make mine a Magnum. That being said, part of me still yearns for a .44 Special even if only for an interesting addition to my collection (perhaps accumulation would be a better word). Unfortunately, most of the .44 Special guns I've come across since selling my M21 have been either of lesser quality than what I'd like or priced too high for me to justify to myself. Within the last month a local shop had a 3" Lew Horton S&W 624 that I'd have bought if not for the $900 price tag and just today I was tempted by a pristine 696 at another local shop, but I couldn't justify the near $800 price tag. In the mean time, I continue to accumulate .357 Magnums (I'm currently up to four) and I've never sold one yet. Oh well, perhaps one day I'll find just the right .44 Special and end my internal conflict.
 
Wth no indication from the OP as to purpose, I will simply say what I prefer (although I have had very limited experience of both). I also can't comment

.44Spl. It is a very pleasant round to shoot.

I know reloading is of no interest to the OP, but I certainly would have no choice of round were it not for reloading. So very pleased I started that.

.357 is sold here, at a premium. .44Mag is even more scarce.
.44Spl is unheard of by most shops!!

I am loading up more Spl rounds over the next week or so and it will probably be my go to round for Ruger shooting practice as well as my choice, should I go for a few revolver races in IPSC.
 
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The .44 special is one of my favorite handgun cartridges. It's all I shot for years in my N Frame, but I was hand loading so I wasn't at the mercy of the market...the the market was good back then! These days, if you're only buying factory ammo you may have to go the .38 / .357 route or face not being able to shoot at all. I cant remember seeing a box of .44 special on a shelf aside from a few months ago I found a box of 20 Corbon .44 special SD loads for $25 per box! I know for a fact that if I wanted to buy 5 or 6 boxes of 357 I could do it this am. Now, if you ever get into hand loading I think you'll appreciate the .44 special a bit more. Especially if you can secure the components. Personally, for hunting or self defense I'd choose a .44 special over a 38 or 357 any day, but that's just me. I really think the .44 special is the most under rated handgun cartridge of all time. Lets not forget America's love affair with the special, until the 1950's and the birth of it's big brother.
 
perhaps one day I'll find just the right .44 Special and end my internal conflict.

Why bother? Load light 44 Magnum and you no longer need to maintain a supply of 44 Special brass. You can get a Model 69 for an L-Frame shooting experience. It looks like 8.5 to 9.0 grains of Unique in a magnum case will get you 900-960 FPS with a 240-250 grain bullet.

I chose 44 Special because it behaves like 45 ACP at the charge levels I like and does not require moon clips. I chose it over 45 Auto Rim since 44 Special is far more common commercially.
 
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I think a better comparison would be

357 mag VS 44 Mag
or
38 Spl VS 44 Spl.

I own relovers in the calibers above..I own two 44 Spl revolvers..and one 44 mag

and bunch or 38 spl and 357 mags

I carry revolvers in 44 spl for SD ..with the right SD ammo the 44 spl .works great without much fuss....the frontal area .430 as compared to .358 ...and you can use heavy 240 gr bullets at modest velocity that will penetrate deep..

expansion is luxury not a necessity

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Rossi 44 mag /44 spl 2.5 in barrel
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Rossi 720 3 inch barrel 44 spl
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Charter 44spl ..2.5 inch barrel just a tad larger than a J frame

All three of theses revolvers are very carryable ,concealable ,shootable ..and are great for two and four legged predators
 
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