.357 concealed carry
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To which .357 cartridge are you referring? There are at least three that I know of: .357 Magnum, .357 Maximum, and .357 Sig.
I do use a .357 Magnum for carry, a S&W Model 66-2 with a 2 1/2" barrel loaded with Remington 158grn JHP. I prefer this gun for a variety of reasons: I prefer a revolver over a semi-automatic, I like the extra penetration that a 158grn .357 Magnum offers, and the .357 Magnum is the most powerful cartridge I can get in a revolver of similar size.
I do use a .357 Magnum for carry, a S&W Model 66-2 with a 2 1/2" barrel loaded with Remington 158grn JHP. I prefer this gun for a variety of reasons: I prefer a revolver over a semi-automatic, I like the extra penetration that a 158grn .357 Magnum offers, and the .357 Magnum is the most powerful cartridge I can get in a revolver of similar size.
silvercorvette
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Hal one of us or both of us are not understanding each other, I am not talking about the .38 super. The gun is a .357 magnum. the .38 super and .357 magnum are two completely different rounds they are not interchangeable. The 1911 I want to buy eventually is a 1911 chambered in .357 magnum. The .38 super 1911 is fairly common compared to a .357 1911
silvercorvette
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I am not familiar with the .357 Maximun, I am going to have to look it up.
The cartridge I am referring to is .357 Magnum revolver cartridge created by Elmer Keith, I thought I was pretty clear about the 1911 I want to eventually get is chambered in the .357 caliber created by Elmer Keith
PSI posted pictures of of the two .357 revolvers I own in another thread somewhere and I like the cartridge enough to want a semi auto chambered in the same round.
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silvercorvette
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I just looked up the .357 Maximun which I thought was something new that came out and haven't heard of. But apparently it's been around for close to 30 years and never became popular. From what I read it's even hard to find unprimed brass if you want to load your own
silvercorvette
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You are right I need one of those smilies that are blushing from embarrassment.
gee you guys made this as confusing as mud on a mid summer day...
.357mag
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.357_Magnum
a stronger version of the .38 spl (.38spl was the parent case to the .357.mag
.357sig
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.357_SIG
made by sig-sauer to replicate one specific load of the .357mag and to be shot from a auto
.357maximun
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.357_Remington_Maximum
a even stronger .357mag! never really caught on
.38super
http://en.wikipedia.org
/wiki/.38_Super
an bigger stronger .38acp - for auto pistols mainly the m1911 to penetrate body armor
made for revolvers
.357mag
.357max
made for autos
.357sig - Sig, Glock, H&K, 1911s
.38super - 1911s
*only in the Coonan or Desert Eagle can the .357mag be fired in a auto -as far as my memory servers, there maybe some other odd ball design im not familiar with
OP... are you considering a auto .357? or a revolver .357?
.357mag
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.357_Magnum
a stronger version of the .38 spl (.38spl was the parent case to the .357.mag
.357sig
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.357_SIG
made by sig-sauer to replicate one specific load of the .357mag and to be shot from a auto
.357maximun
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.357_Remington_Maximum
a even stronger .357mag! never really caught on
.38super
http://en.wikipedia.org
/wiki/.38_Super
an bigger stronger .38acp - for auto pistols mainly the m1911 to penetrate body armor
made for revolvers
.357mag
.357max
made for autos
.357sig - Sig, Glock, H&K, 1911s
.38super - 1911s
*only in the Coonan or Desert Eagle can the .357mag be fired in a auto -as far as my memory servers, there maybe some other odd ball design im not familiar with
OP... are you considering a auto .357? or a revolver .357?
silvercorvette
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When I mentioned wanting a .357 it was a Coonan, I had not even considered a Desert Eagle.
By the way according to Coonan the .38 special will not work in their 1911
youngunz4life
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I have some .357's. They are all .357 magnum revolvers and two of them are used for CCW daily. I can carry two at once, sometimes my wife carries one, and I can switch it up here and there with a bigger barreled .357. I have a 2"barrel and a 2 1/8"barrel, so they are great CCW's in my mind with great power while being able to shoot 4 different kinds of ammos. I heard +rounds were on their way out, but I am not sure if that was just an incorrect rumor my buddy told me or not?
silvercorvette said:
this is not entirely correct, in the original release of the Coonan model A and B they had a magazine insert and a lower power recoil spring that made the Coonan able to shoot the .38spl.
I am not entirely convinced that they will not eventually start making the .38spl "conversion" kit again, as im sure they will.
i own a original Coonan Model B, and their are three reasons that i would never carry it for true CCW.
first off its friggen huge!
secondly, loading a new mag into the gun isn't always as easy as slamming the mag home, i often have issues with the first round popping up straight vertical, causing me to have to fiddle with the round and mag.
third, i love this gun and would be very very angry if it got confiscated in a shooting and ended up in a evidence locker for any amount of time
After a bit of research, I also found that there are two more .357 cartridges out there: .357 Herrett and .357/44 Bain & Davis. The only two really popular .357 cartridges, however, are .357 Magnum and .357 Sig so I would guess that the OP was referring to one or both of those, we just need him or her to clarify.
My previous post was actually directed more at the OP, I understood that you were talking about a gun in .357 Magnum (I'm not aware of any 1911's made in .357 Sig outside of some sort of custom job). Another cartridge you might consider, however, is 9x25 Dillon. Basically, it's a 10mm Auto necked down to 9mm with correspondingly high velocities (think of it as a .357 Sig on steroids).
My previous post was actually directed more at the OP, I understood that you were talking about a gun in .357 Magnum (I'm not aware of any 1911's made in .357 Sig outside of some sort of custom job). Another cartridge you might consider, however, is 9x25 Dillon. Basically, it's a 10mm Auto necked down to 9mm with correspondingly high velocities (think of it as a .357 Sig on steroids).
Well, - I admit to a bit of chain jerking up above - hence the wink
...I just don't see how it's possible though to fit a rimmed round as long as the .357 mag into a (true) 1911 frame.
I seriously doubt even a shorter .38spl could be either.
A modified 1911 style pistol - for sure - that's what the Coonan is.
The one I handled was far to large for me to comfortably reach the trigger though.
jglsprings
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Egor20 beat me to it. Someone always wants to pick a nit.
I'll go clean my clip for my Colt 1911 now.
Rich Miranda
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Nice! I think I'll put that into my sig line, with your permission of course...
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and assume you mean a 357 magnum revolver and yes, lots of people carry a 357 or a 38 special which is about the same thing. I personally carry a 40 caliber semi auto but I do have a few revolvers. Lately I've been warming to the idea or revolver carry.
One advantage I see to a revolver is the elimination of having to carry spare magazines. With a revolver you can fill your pockets with bullets and your good to go for an extended session of self defense.
To answer your question if you already have a semi auto picking up a 357 would add a little variety to your shooting.
dabigguns357
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I still carry a S&W 686 4 inch barrel .357 mag from time to time,but i used to carry it every day even in the summer just to see if i could.I've never had any issues with carrying it.All you need is a good rig and it's simple to conceal anything.
Now when i'm not carrying my .357 i'm carrying my Glock 22.As for not having enough ammo when i do carry my .357,i'm not worried,because my wife carries a Glock 23.
Now when i'm not carrying my .357 i'm carrying my Glock 22.As for not having enough ammo when i do carry my .357,i'm not worried,because my wife carries a Glock 23.
Water-Man
You want to know why there were 22 posts before anyone asked which .357?
It's because in all of those 22 posts people knew which one he was talking about, the mainstream one. Fact of the matter is when someone says .357 they are talking about the mainstream one 99.9% of the time because those who have one of the rarer variants generally call them by variant designation to properly identify what they are talking about as not being the mainstream .357.
If someone in general conversation says "my .357...." it can be safely inferred that he has a .357 Magnum, "the" .357 Magnum.
I have used variants of mainstream cartridges such as Smith & Wesson model 52 wadcutters, I didn't refer to it as "my .38", it was my ".38 wadcutter" because the variant needs to be specified, not the mainstream. I had one of the first .357 Maximum models to hit the market, up until then my Pythons were my .357's, I designated the variant in conversation as my .357 Max or Maxi. I also had a .44 Auto Mag with a .357 Auto Mag barrel, easy enough to refer to as my .357 Auto Mag.
My point here is that I have hung around with a lot of different competition crowds and cops and everyone always knew what kind of .357 you were referring to if you said simply .357.
I just having fun with you water-man, keep it fun. People can get too serious here.
You want to know why there were 22 posts before anyone asked which .357?
It's because in all of those 22 posts people knew which one he was talking about, the mainstream one. Fact of the matter is when someone says .357 they are talking about the mainstream one 99.9% of the time because those who have one of the rarer variants generally call them by variant designation to properly identify what they are talking about as not being the mainstream .357.
If someone in general conversation says "my .357...." it can be safely inferred that he has a .357 Magnum, "the" .357 Magnum.
I have used variants of mainstream cartridges such as Smith & Wesson model 52 wadcutters, I didn't refer to it as "my .38", it was my ".38 wadcutter" because the variant needs to be specified, not the mainstream. I had one of the first .357 Maximum models to hit the market, up until then my Pythons were my .357's, I designated the variant in conversation as my .357 Max or Maxi. I also had a .44 Auto Mag with a .357 Auto Mag barrel, easy enough to refer to as my .357 Auto Mag.
My point here is that I have hung around with a lot of different competition crowds and cops and everyone always knew what kind of .357 you were referring to if you said simply .357.
I just having fun with you water-man, keep it fun.
People can get too serious here.