35 Remington User Input Requested

Last time I checked H&R was offering the Handi-Rifle in .35 rem. Also the CVA Hunter can be had in .35 rem. Of course Encore and Contender barrels can be ordered in .35 rem

It would be interesting to load for a .35 rem single shot. A lot more bullet choices.
 
There was a time, and a fairly long time, between the passing of the Remington pump and autos (141's & 81s) and the "rediscovery" of the .35 Rem by Contender shooters, when the only new factory rifles you could get in .35 Rem was the Marlin.

During those years, I read more than one article about how it seemed that the .35 Rem was bound for commercial obsolescence, the only thing keeping it alive was the good handling of the Marlin rifle, etc....

When some folks figured out that you could use the .35 Rem in a Contender, and pretty effectively, it sparked a new wave of interest in the round.

Since then, the .35 has held on, and even grown a bit in popularity.
 
there's not a nickel's worth of difference performance-wise
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LOL now that's funny. I suppose you think the 22 LR and 22 Mag are the same also. LOL

Jim

336C in 35 Remington (JM model)
 
@ Jim243- the .35 is my favorite too, for sentimental reasons. But when you look at ballistics, a case can't be made that the .35 is any "better" than the .30-30. They are both great deer cartridges, especially in brushy terrain. But the .35 isn't any "better", it's just a figment of our imagination. If you don't believe me, check out this article, which actually shows the .30-30 having an ever-so-slight advantage.

http://www.leverguns.com/articles/compare.htm
 
I've been curious about the .35R for years, after only being able to find marlin lever guns with the safety I built a handi rifle in the caliber.

Fun caliber & the handi is accurate as all get out! I've shot .38 special since I was a boy so I already had a pile of cast boolits on the shelf for it. Seems to like your standard issue 158gr SWC with 9gr of trailboss behind it, although the throat is very, very short.

Fun to plink with & being able to put a shotgun barrel on the same frame is just icing on the cake!
 
I'll take a half-dozen at this price.

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@water-man: I was thinking about more recent offerings, but you are absolutely correct.

I had a friend whose dad hunted elk in colorado, with one of those rifles, chambered for .30 remington. During my magnum-itis youth, I scorned that combination and thought he was under gunned with the .30 remington, but it always worked. Some might attribute the success to his markmanship, stalking, and never taking a shot over 100 yards. I don't believe it. Personally, I think that 50 years ago elk were more fragile and easier to kill than they are today. Now, the elk likely have a health care plan and take vitamins.
 
But when you look at ballistics, a case can't be made that the .35 is any "better" than the .30-30. They are both great deer cartridges, especially in brushy terrain. But the .35 isn't any "better", it's just a figment of our imagination
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Based on what I have seen, its also a figment of deer's imagination. :D

The figures don't lie, the .30-30 has flatter trajectory and more energy at range, BUT, the whitetails I have seen dropped seem to go down "harder" or maybe "faster" when hit by the .35 over the .30-30.

it doesn't make sense on paper, but the way game reacts to .35 cal (and larger) is different than what the paper figures lead one to believe.

The only real drawback to the .35 Rem (besides on the shelf popularity) is the rifles themselves. And its a common on to all the cartridges in the classic lever gun design, be they Winchester, or Remington designs.

The round nose bullets (or flat point) needed for the tube magazines, the generally coarse sights and usually less than stellar trigger pulls on Winchester and Marlin rifles is what limits the range more than the actual ballistics of the round itself.
 
It's just my opinion but I think when you have correct shot placement and a bullet that gives adequate penetration/expansion, the cartridge is rather trivial, provided it's at least .243 or larger. .224's can be used for deer provided the shooter knows their limitations of shot placement and range.

I love my .35 but I don't think it possesses any magical powers. It would surprise most of us how many "hunters" believe neither the .35 nor the .30-30 are adequate for deer hunting.

Looking at most hunting/shooting mags lately, it would seem that no deer will be killed this year at a distance over 50 yards unless you're using a 26 Nosler :p
 
SteveNC thanks for posting that chart. If you hadn't I was going to. I have posted it several times before. I also don't believe the 35 to be better than the 30-30. One of the early posters stated that the 35 bullets he has recovered didn't expand. The extra speed of the 30-30 may help with expansion and even things up a bit.

That being said I still want a 35 rem. myself. My buddy has one for sale but the inability to find brass and most times bullets keps me from getting it.

Plus I have a 44 mag marlin and can load 200gr bullets to just over 2000fps and pretty well match the 35 and I am certain those bullets will expand. I have killed one deer with the 44 mag using a 240gr bullet and my bud has killed 10+ deer with his. Deer just don't go very far when shot with one of these.
 
I havent tried it yet but 158 gr HP .357 bullets make some wicked .35 rem loads. They may expand a little too much for deer at close range though.
 
The only 35 I've had was a Super 14 Contender barrel. I scoped it, and worked up some pretty good loads with it. I could usually group about 1 1/2" at 100yds with it.
It was a fun gun to shoot, but I never got to take any game with it. One thing about it... it had NOTICEABLE recoil out of that 14" barrel.
 
Hammie." I seem to dimly remember a special run of remington 7600 pumps in .35 remington, but my memory is hazy. Maybe someone else knows if that happened?"

My mind is pretty foggy also, but I seem to recall a run of Remmy Pump guns being marketed for Penn. many years ago. It seemed that every deer camp in western Pa. had at least one Remington pump in the gun rack. Many were 760's and 7600's, but I'd seen more than a few model 14's and 141's before I was out of high-school. For a while they were competing with the old .348 Winchester.

I still store my Dad's .35 Rem 141 pump for my oldest son, he's a lefty and loves the action.

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@.45vet: It seems to stick in my mind that it was about 10 or 15 years ago, it was a limited run of 7600's, and they had a .35 remington brass head some where on the rifle. Or maybe it's wishful thinking. At the age of 67, fact and fantasy is starting to blur.

When I used my 336, .35 remington, I loaded the speer 180 grain flat point. Although if I were looking for a brush gun right now, it would probably be a .444 marlin.
 
The neat thing about the Remington 14/141 pump rifles is that they were designed with a spiral magazine, so pointed bullets are not a problem. My Model 14 shoots great with Hornady Leverevolution 200gr. as long as I grind off just a bit of the tip. Otherwise it will not load them. These were beautifully made rifles, designed by J. D. Pedersen, another of the great old time designers who doesn't get the credit he deserves.
 
I don't believe anybody has mentioned that the short barrel Remington model 600 was chambered in the 35rem. back in the early to mid 60's. These were great little rifles in great calibers. They may have been some of the first "Scout Rifles" we just didn't know it back then.
 
I started out deer hunting with a 94 30-30 Never was under powered in Michigan north woods. Many years ago I loaded up some 35 Rems. With 200 core locks in a old pump for a friend that baby **** very good. Since I purchased BLR 81 in 35 Win. I haven't put it down. I do need to compleat my 200 gr. Load developments yet. I believe the 35 family of old cartridges are some of the best deer rifles under 100 yds. With iron sights. I don't like scopes on the old classics but my BLR works with a 1-4 scope.
 
I tend to agree about scopes on the older classic rifles, but my Remington Model 14 already had a Lyman Alaskan (2.5X) scope on it when I got it, and it's such a great glass that I haven't had the heart to remove it. I think if one wants to mount a scope on a classic, it needs to be fairly compact, lightweight, and mounted as low as possible. Also, it needs to be something in the lower magnification range (no more than 4-5X), preferably a 2.5 -3X fixed or a low range variable.
 
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