327 Federal?

A ++1 for the 92 Win/clone idea. However, it's been speculated that the .327 is too small for the standard 92 loading gate. While it could be tube fed like the Marlin .32 H&R or yore, it'd be a shame if it had to be. Hope Rossi or somebody can work that part out. Also, pressure has been discussed (ditto relative to a new chambering for Marlins or re-chambering .32 H&R Marlins). while the 92 is a very strong action, if IIRC the .327 exceeds all or most of the current chamberings.* The 92 has been chambered in .454 but I don't know those pressures, though Rossi did beef up the action for it. One would think, if an issue, the same could be done for the .327.
 
Rampant_Colt said:
" I would like to see Ruger chamber .327 Mag in their Single-Six http://www.gunblast.com/Bowen-327s.htm "

Another +1 - sure has seemed like a natural pairing to me--perfect actually! At least one of my Vaquerito .32s has been "planned" for a Bowen (Clements, Harton etc) conversion for quite some time.
 
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gak said:
Another +1 - sure has seemed like a natural pairing to me--perfect actually! At least one of my Vaquerito .32s has been "planned" for a Bowen (Clements, Harton etc) conversion for quite some time.
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I would love to have any Bowen revolver. Just can't afford 'em! There's no reason Ruger can't chamber their Single-Six (Vaquerito LoL) in .327 Mag. I bet they would sell. A 4" or 5½" stainless S-S would perfectly suit my needs as a camping/traipsing sidearm


http://www.gunblast.com/Bowen-327s.htm
 
There's no reason Ruger can't chamber their Single-Six (Vaquerito LoL) in .327 Mag.
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I believe that the raw length of the cylinder is the reason that Ruger actually can't simply start sending them out the door.

Otherwise, Hamilton Bowen (who is a big proponent of the round) would be shipping them like mad.
 
Rampant_Colt said:
"There's no reason Ruger can't chamber their Single-Six (Vaquerito LoL) in .327 Mag."

Sevens said:
"I believe that the raw length of the cylinder is the reason that Ruger actually can't simply start sending them out the door.Otherwise, Hamilton Bowen (who is a big proponent of the round) would be shipping them like mad."

Actually both are right...but Rampant in a sense more--in that "all" Bowen (Clements, Harton and others) are doing is installing a brand new cylinder of correct length and then "adjusting" the B/C gap accordingly. That's the beauty of the conversion, no cylinder frame window modifications needed. So, no, they (and we) can't just rechammber the existing too-short H&R cylinders, but being the originating manufacturer, Ruger wouldn't have to consider that anyway. Presumably they would just do what Bowen (etc) is doing and build a new cylinder. It's been long enough since regular production of the .32 H&R Single Six that they wouldn't/shouldnt be bound by the limits of then-existing tooling, patterns and parts for everything in a "new .32_." But to the extent that it's ideal that most of the parts are already there--and they are--yes, I do believe there's no significant reason they couldn't even with almost just a moment's notice "simply start sending them out the door."
 
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I have read that what the .327 actually is, and what it is supposed to be, are two different things. I have read that most factory loads are under-powered. I have read that the pressures have caused forcing cones to have questionable durability on some makes. This has also led to certain smaller revolvers that people dream of happening are simply not capable of happening.

I have read that it's pretty much a dead round.

I thought it sounded neat, but given what seems to be the future of the round, I chose to avoid it.
 
@baccusboy: I have read that what the .327 actually is, and what it is supposed to be, are two different things. I have read that most factory loads are under-powered. I have read that the pressures have caused forcing cones to have questionable durability on some makes.
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In Jeff Quinn's review of the .327, he did a ballistic test using a pork shoulder as his medium, which is a pretty good test. Using a factory Federal American Eagle 100gr softpoint that he chrono'd @1375 fps** out of an SP101, the bullet completely penetrated a 16-inch pork shoulder - that's pretty serious penetration, pretty much like you'd expect with a .357 softpoint, and certainly enough for self defense.
http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger-SP101-327.htm

** This load has since been bumped up from a factory spec of 1400fps to a factory spec of 1500fps.


To me these look loaded similarly to other magnum loads, like the .357. What I look at is - are the bullets of similar sectional density being pushed at similar velocities (that's true of .357, .41 and .44 Magnums)? Here is some factory load data, and the answer is yes.

LIGHT BULLET:
  • .327 MAG: Sectional density of 0.147 with a bullet weight of 100gr and diameter of 0.312", factory rated @ 1500fps from Federal
  • .357 MAG: Sectional density of 0.140 with a bullet weight of 125gr and diameter of 0.357", factory rated @ 1450fps from Speer

HEAVY BULLET:
  • .327 MAG: Sectional density of 0.169 with a bullet weight of 115gr and diameter of 0.312", factory rated @ 1335fps from Speer
  • .357 MAG: Sectional density of 0.177 with a bullet weight of 158gr and diameter of 0.357", factory rated @ 1235fps from Speer
 
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Heavy 327 fed.

Any one loading and shooting heavy cast bullets 115-135gr. in the 327 fed mag. What kind of performace are you getting ?
 
I have recently ordered a box of Penn Bullets 115gr lead RN-FP and loaded them over two different kinds of powder. On Sunday, I hope to first check them for safety... then for accuracy... then for velocity... and then for leading.

We have a thread in the handloading & reloading area of this site specifically dedicated to the .327 Federal, and I'll report back there with my findings.
 
baccusboy--I dare say that you read wrong. I have an SP101 and posted chrony results on factory and hand loads herein a few months back. Velocity was about as close as any factory spec's are. The round has been declared dead by a few. That is their opinion. But they are wrong. That is my opinion.

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