.32 Teat fire ammo
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SigP6Carry
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I honestly wouldn't hold my breath on that.... you're the first person I've ever heard use the phrase "teat fire." I thought I was just insane thinking it was real.
You can find single rounds occasionally at cartridge-collectors shows, but you might also find a few on online sites; these were known as the 32 Moore teat-fire. I hope you're not planning on trying to actually FIRE any of these, as they're long obsolete and worth more as historical oddities.
Mike Irwin
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I have 4 of the early pattern (flat nipple) .32 caliber rounds. They usually bring higher prices than the later round nipple ammo.
No matter what, though, you're looking at $5 or more a shot for the ammo.
If you were looking for the .45 caliber version? You'd be talking $75 or more a shot, IF you could even find a gun.
No matter what, though, you're looking at $5 or more a shot for the ammo.
If you were looking for the .45 caliber version? You'd be talking $75 or more a shot, IF you could even find a gun.
Fishslayer
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Teat fired ammo? Wasn't that in an Austin Powers movie?
The .45 cal teat fired ammo usually has a very high content of silicone...
The .45 cal teat fired ammo usually has a very high content of silicone...
gearchecker
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Found a link fro the teatfire cartridge
This is what I found for you.
I found this family friendly link:
http://www.ammo-one.com/IgnitionTEAT.html
At $17.50 per cartridge I wouldn't be shooting it.
This is what I found for you.
I found this family friendly link:
http://www.ammo-one.com/IgnitionTEAT.html
At $17.50 per cartridge I wouldn't be shooting it.
ScottRiqui
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Wow - the cartridge looks even more obscene than the name would suggest. Kind of like a bullet stuck backwards into a brass reservoir-tipped condom.
This unusual layout was an attempt to get around the Rollin White patent on bored-through cylinders held by S&W, while still using self-contained cartridges; the revolvers made for these cartridges have a flat piece of steel screwed onto the frame that's supposed to hook under the rolled mouth of the case to pull fired cases out the front of the cylinder.
The Moore was a pretty popular gun in its day and they are often seen at gun shows. They are not expensive, usually running around $600-700. I counted six at last year's Timonium (Baltimore) Show. I bought one and asked the seller if he would thrown in a box of ammo. For some reason, he looked at me funny.
Here are some pics of a Moore and a teat-fire cartridge. Note the small holes in the rear of the cylinder and the shape of the hammer that strikes down on the "teat" to fire the cartridge. The piece of steel SDC mentions (swung down in the pictures) is not actually an extractor, it is a loading gate to keep a round in the loading position from falling out forward. Once the gate is opened, a fired case is ejected forward by means of a rod inserted into the small notch at the bottom of the frame boss (best seen in picture 3).
Incidentally, the larger holes in the rear of the cylinder are for the "teat"; the smaller ones are for the cylinder stop, which comes forward out of the frame to stop cylinder rotation. The ratchet and stop holes are in a raised part of the cylinder which provides a support for the "teat" when the hammer strikes down on it.
Jim
Here are some pics of a Moore and a teat-fire cartridge. Note the small holes in the rear of the cylinder and the shape of the hammer that strikes down on the "teat" to fire the cartridge. The piece of steel SDC mentions (swung down in the pictures) is not actually an extractor, it is a loading gate to keep a round in the loading position from falling out forward. Once the gate is opened, a fired case is ejected forward by means of a rod inserted into the small notch at the bottom of the frame boss (best seen in picture 3).
Incidentally, the larger holes in the rear of the cylinder are for the "teat"; the smaller ones are for the cylinder stop, which comes forward out of the frame to stop cylinder rotation. The ratchet and stop holes are in a raised part of the cylinder which provides a support for the "teat" when the hammer strikes down on it.
Jim
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Fishslayer
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Oh for the love a...
Who woulda thunk it? I thought this was a spinoff of someone's typo of "test fired." The "a" IS right next to the "s."
There really IS a "teat fired" ammo! Ya learn something new every day. Dunno how useful it is, but I learned something...
Who woulda thunk it? I thought this was a spinoff of someone's typo of "test fired." The "a" IS right next to the "s."
There really IS a "teat fired" ammo! Ya learn something new every day. Dunno how useful it is, but I learned something...
Well, if you want more excitement, there was also a cup fire cartridge.
I have all three of those interesting guns, but rather than going to the trouble of posting more pictures, here is a site that has good pics, plus descriptions.
http://armscollectors.com/mgs/rollins.htm
The Plant cup fire is also made to load from the front and its operation is described on the site. Incidentally, some of those revolvers have a small button on the bottom of the center pin. To remove the center pin, the button is PUSHED up; trying to pull it down will break it.
The third revolver in that group is the Slocum; Flayderman calls it a front loader, but it actually uses a conventional rimfire cartridge but evades the White patent by loading from the side. Its operation is explained at the above site.
P.S. Sorry, but I don't know where to get cup fire cartridges either.
Jim
I have all three of those interesting guns, but rather than going to the trouble of posting more pictures, here is a site that has good pics, plus descriptions.
http://armscollectors.com/mgs/rollins.htm
The Plant cup fire is also made to load from the front and its operation is described on the site. Incidentally, some of those revolvers have a small button on the bottom of the center pin. To remove the center pin, the button is PUSHED up; trying to pull it down will break it.
The third revolver in that group is the Slocum; Flayderman calls it a front loader, but it actually uses a conventional rimfire cartridge but evades the White patent by loading from the side. Its operation is explained at the above site.
P.S. Sorry, but I don't know where to get cup fire cartridges either.
Jim
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Those odd ball rounds were made in several calibers. The Allen lip fire was made in .25, .32, .36, and .44; the Ellis & White (Plant) cup primed was made in .28, .30, and .42 calibers; and the teat fire was made in both .32 and .45, though there may have been .30 and .36 as well.
Then there were the early center fires, like the Martin and the Benet, both of which were used by the U.S. Army; the latter may have contributed to the problems of a certain Lt. Col, formerly brevet Major General, named Custer.
Jim
Then there were the early center fires, like the Martin and the Benet, both of which were used by the U.S. Army; the latter may have contributed to the problems of a certain Lt. Col, formerly brevet Major General, named Custer.
Jim
caesarsfish
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old ammo (teat, paper shells and old copper rim fire)
I just bought a couple of boxes of old ammo which includes teat rounds, paper shells and old copper rim fire ammo. Does anyone know of a auction site where I can sell these.
I just bought a couple of boxes of old ammo which includes teat rounds, paper shells and old copper rim fire ammo. Does anyone know of a auction site where I can sell these.
top 2 left round and flat teat fire
bottom 2 left brass and paper pin fire Paper were generally shot shells but this one is a slug
right side are cup fires top is cross section to show primer at bottom of cup
Don't have pictures of my other odd ignition rounds yet, just starting to photo cartridge collection.
bottom 2 left brass and paper pin fire Paper were generally shot shells but this one is a slug
right side are cup fires top is cross section to show primer at bottom of cup
Don't have pictures of my other odd ignition rounds yet, just starting to photo cartridge collection.
