Catfishman
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I read this to mean there is a 2.5" group on the target at 1000 yards. Correct?
If so, that's amazing.
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I read this to mean there is a 2.5" group on the target at 1000 yards. Correct?
If so, that's amazing.
catfish
It has happened with three shot groups a few times. Mirage plays the biggest part. The best feeling is doing it with a stock rifle. It absolutely still gets me going when I get to a target at that distance or further and realize I can still do it. Doin that with a 308 win & 155s will make you thank God for 175 or 190smks. I do use a vortex razor HD for long range though. It has a lot to do with everything.
consistency is always the goal but anything more than a 10 MPH wind and it all goes to $hit. 2.5 quickly turns to 10 or 12". Now 190s are a COMPLETELY different story.
It has happened with three shot groups a few times. Mirage plays the biggest part. The best feeling is doing it with a stock rifle. It absolutely still gets me going when I get to a target at that distance or further and realize I can still do it. Doin that with a 308 win & 155s will make you thank God for 175 or 190smks. I do use a vortex razor HD for long range though. It has a lot to do with everything.
consistency is always the goal but anything more than a 10 MPH wind and it all goes to $hit. 2.5 quickly turns to 10 or 12". Now 190s are a COMPLETELY different story.And,
A 175 SMK @ 2800 FPS will drift about 15 inches at 1000 yards with a 2 MPH wind.
Problem is not many people can detect a 2 MPH wind at 1000 yards.
Thats why you see very few cleaned 1000 yard targets REGARDLESS of how fancy and tricked out the rifle is. Again, the X-10 ring is 20 inches (2 MOA) across.
Let put it into prospective:
The E-Shilloette (military man size target) is about 19 X 40. Assuming you hold center mass. That means you have 9.5 inches left and right windage to play with. A 2 MPH full value wind is a miss.
The question is, is it a 2 MPH wind or 4 MPH wind???? How many here can honestly say they can tell?
I certainly can't, and I've been to Sniper School, I've taught sniper schools, I've shot the Lord knows how many 1000 yard matches.
A 175 SMK @ 2800 FPS will drift about 15 inches at 1000 yards with a 2 MPH wind.
Problem is not many people can detect a 2 MPH wind at 1000 yards.
Thats why you see very few cleaned 1000 yard targets REGARDLESS of how fancy and tricked out the rifle is. Again, the X-10 ring is 20 inches (2 MOA) across.
Let put it into prospective:
The E-Shilloette (military man size target) is about 19 X 40. Assuming you hold center mass. That means you have 9.5 inches left and right windage to play with. A 2 MPH full value wind is a miss.
The question is, is it a 2 MPH wind or 4 MPH wind???? How many here can honestly say they can tell?
I certainly can't, and I've been to Sniper School, I've taught sniper schools, I've shot the Lord knows how many 1000 yard matches.
4runnerman
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Very simple answer buddy
1- Looks and nothing more --Remington
2-Not great looking but deadly accurate-Savage all the way.
1- Looks and nothing more --Remington
2-Not great looking but deadly accurate-Savage all the way.