Art--you've got the key concept correct. You clearly must not shoot an intruder once he's down and is no longer threatening you with deadly force. That's what it means to "shoot to stop, not to kill." On the other hand, IF (and only if) deadly force is justified I want to make damn sure it really is deadly. That's the only way to guarantee my survival once my back's to the wall and the BG is about to kill me. A merely wounded intruder can still kill me. I'd still advise shooting for the torso, though, since that's the biggest target. The head is tricky, and hitting the face may just create a nasty wound. Teeth and sinuses can deflect even large bullets.
.30-30 lever action's for home defense.
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I advocate shooting in the head!!! So when you get to court, and must justify shooting at all, at least you wont have a Psycopathic crimminal putting out a differnt story of why you shot him in the Gut!
You are living in a ligitous environ, chances are you are going to get screwed any which way you go. Might as well do society a favor and execute justice!
You are living in a ligitous environ, chances are you are going to get screwed any which way you go. Might as well do society a favor and execute justice!
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For your info and enlightement, you could also move to SC http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=54778
Cheers!
[Edited by Thibault on 03-05-2001 at 02:08 PM]
For your info and enlightement, you could also move to SC http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=54778
Cheers!
[Edited by Thibault on 03-05-2001 at 02:08 PM]
Art Eatman
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Grapeshot: Sorry to have misunderstood. ("Tell me if what I said is what I think I meant!" 
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Anyhow, I think the consensus is that nobody looks forward to a self-defense situation as being a Good Thing. If one is forced into it, then go for center of mass with a firearm of adequate power. COM fits my training, practice and thinking.
Personal opinion: A lever action .30-30 would work for home defense, but it would not be my first or even second choice. (One's finances obviously affect such decisions.) My first choice would be a handgun, .357 or equivalent performance. Second, almost any shotgun--but I happen to have a couple of 12 gauges. Last, a hunting rifle--unless that's all I happened to have. Even so, I'd prefer a lever action to be in a pistol cartridge if home defense was a priority reason for the purchase.
Definitely FWIW,
Art
)Anyhow, I think the consensus is that nobody looks forward to a self-defense situation as being a Good Thing. If one is forced into it, then go for center of mass with a firearm of adequate power. COM fits my training, practice and thinking.
Personal opinion: A lever action .30-30 would work for home defense, but it would not be my first or even second choice. (One's finances obviously affect such decisions.) My first choice would be a handgun, .357 or equivalent performance. Second, almost any shotgun--but I happen to have a couple of 12 gauges. Last, a hunting rifle--unless that's all I happened to have. Even so, I'd prefer a lever action to be in a pistol cartridge if home defense was a priority reason for the purchase.
Definitely FWIW,
Art
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30-30 for HD
A goood 30-30 will do anything that needs doing by a rifle. if you think not, shoot it out to 300 yards and find out just how much punch it realy has.My sons and I shot the 300yard gong a lot and it really rocks it all it takes is some sight adjustment to get on target. over penitration may be a concern if you have close neighbors. We shoot a lot of 170 gr.cast gas checked slugs and they do very well. Load them right up to factory specs.
A goood 30-30 will do anything that needs doing by a rifle. if you think not, shoot it out to 300 yards and find out just how much punch it realy has.My sons and I shot the 300yard gong a lot and it really rocks it all it takes is some sight adjustment to get on target. over penitration may be a concern if you have close neighbors. We shoot a lot of 170 gr.cast gas checked slugs and they do very well. Load them right up to factory specs.