.270...stainless...w/ a 24" barrel

That's true, I will have to get used to no single loading if I go with the Winchester. I haven't set anything in stone yet though, if I see a deal on a 700 CDL SF in .270 at the gun show this weekend, it might just follow me home. ;)
 
Good luck finding a 700 CDL SF .270 Win at a gun show.

I searched the web and several dealers before finding one at Bud's Guns. It was the only place that had one, and only one.
 
Bud's shows to have one right now as well. My chances of finding the particular Winchester I'm looking for aren't great either. Availability of new Model 70's is spotty at best around here but I guarantee there will be truckloads of "budget" rifles, AR's, AK's, Glocks, and anything that has "tactical" in it's name.
 
Well, I have the Winchester model 70 Classic Sporter in 270, and I don't have any problems single loading it. Just pop one round into the magazine and let it feed from there. My rifle will hold 5 rounds in the magazine and you can still get the 6th round into the chamber. My rifle is not free-floated. I expect it would shoot tighter groups if it were, but I have worked up one recipe that is sub-MOA at 300 yards, so I have kept it original. And yes, it wears a Walnut stock; I wouldn't have it any other way. Mine's blued steel. I could live with stainless steel, but I just can't abide with a plastic stock. Laminated stocks could be doable, but honestly, as my brother says, "It's plywood!".
 
If you can find an Ultimate Shadow SS for a good price you can always pick up a Winchester M70 stock and be into it for about the price of the Rem M700 SF. The stock that I linked is inlet for the FWT magnum rifle which is the same contour as the Ultimate Shadow.
 
Well I searched the gun show high and low, and there was not a single stainless Winchester Model 70 in .270 win. Surprised? Me neither.

I did however find two new stainless Remington 700's in .270 that interested me, one of which was a CDL SF just like Picher's.

It was $985+tax, I haggled around with the salesman over it for a good while, and the best I could get with cash was $1000 out the door. I've seen them right around $900 online so I finally ended up passing on it.

Two booths down I had noticed an ADL stainless with a $575 tag on it. The man at this booth ended up being much easier to work with. So after some relatively easy haggling I ended up walking out with it for $475 out the door.

So for $525 dollars less, I sacrificed flutes in the barrel, a floorplate, and a CDL stock. An aftermarket stock will be going on it anyway. As will a Timney trigger.

I'm wide open to suggestions on aftermarket stocks by the way. I'm considering Boyd's but a good synthetic is not out of the question.

Almost forgot a pic. It's plain Jane but here she is anyway:

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Nice snag!

Go to Stocky's and look at the B&C Mountain Rifle ADL stock. They cost about $250 and have pillars already installed. Unfortunately they do require some fitting, so if you're not handy at that kind of thing you'll need to head to a gunsmith.

McMillan has plenty of stocks that will work as well ready to ship in inventory. Right now they have their version of the Mountain Rifle stock on sale, but you'll have to find some bottom metal to convert to a BDL. However, the McMillan stocks are usually plug-n-play as their inlet is far better than the B&C stocks.
 
The 22" vs 24" barrel just isn't that important. If you were to take 10 of each length and chronograph them the 24" guns would average about 50 fps faster.
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IME, that depends upon what powder is used. Very slow powders, such as IMR7828 and RL22, will lose much more than 50 f/sec ..... you'll never get top velocities out of them with a 22" barrel.

Even the 4831's and the 4350's do considerably better in the longer barrels ......

..... and if you are not going for 3100+ f/sec with a 130, or 2900+ with a 150, why go with the 270WIN at all? With slow powders, all that case capacity of the -06 size case is turned into useless muzzle flash and noise instead of velocity ....... It's like having a classic muscle car with a tiny four-banger in it (and removing the muffler!)..... it might say "Corevette" or "Mustang" on the side, and it sure sounds big, but it sure won't do the same 1/4 mile time.....
 
I was actually already checking out that Bell & Carlson you linked.

I saw the warning about it requiring fitting, but I was wondering if I would just have to open up the barrel channel or if the action wasn't fully inlet.

@Jimbob86- Luckily I did get a 24" barrel. And I agree about muzzle flash/noise/wasted case capacity. I used to own a 22" 25-06. Didn't care for it. I made sure this time I got a long action with a 24" barrel.
 
I have two of B&C stocks I linked and my barreled actions won't fit in them. IIRC the mountain rifle barrel contour finishes around .550 at 22" and the Rem sporter is around .660 at 24". The barrel channel will definitely have to be opened up, I can't tell you how well the action inlet is as I don't have one that isn't barreled currently.

Overall I like the shape and feel of the stock, but it isn't close to the quality of the inlet on the McMillan stocks I own. But if I was going to buy the McMillan I'd want one stock would have cost me $100 more than I spent on both B&C stocks. These stocks weigh about 27-28 ounces and my McMillan stocks weigh 22-24 ounces. I decided since I'm going to use a custom contour on my builds I'll save weight there for less money than buying another McMillan with Edge fill.
 
Yea the McMillan is great and I'd love to have it, I just have a hard time putting more in the stock than I paid for the rifle.

I'll probably end up getting another Boyd's and bedding it.
 
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Yea the McMillan is great and I'd love to have it, I just have a hard time putting more in the stock than I paid for the rifle.
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Think of the stock as a lifetime investment, plus it's has a lifetime warranty! It's just like buying a quality optic to put on your rifle, if you start to think that way things will get easier. If you shoot this rifle enough you'll eventually have to replace the barrel and maybe some other parts, but you shouldn't ever have to buy another stock.

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Every McMillan Fiberglass Stock carries an “Unconditional Lifetime Warranty” against cracking, warping, splitting, breaking or becoming unserviceable for any reason. If a problem occurs, the stock will be repaired, replaced or the purchase price will be refunded at our option. This applies to items we actually manufacture and not to options or accessories we purchase from other manufacturers.
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I'm not saying you should buy a McMillan, but a Boyd's laminate is just to dang heavy for my tastes. Plus if you star adding in wood upgrades and all the little extras they do now on a Boyd's stock there isn't much difference between it and the B&C stock I linked price wise. Don't get me wrong I love wood stocks, but I'd rather find an old factory wood ADL stock or buy a quality synthetic stockbefore I buy another Boyd's or Richard's for anything other than a military sporter.

FYI I've found all my McMillan stocks second hand and the cost me between $375 and $425. They're out there you just have to be patient and look around.
 
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the Savage 116 or WBY vanguard would give you best accuracy for under $1000.

or get a savage axis or ruger american and rebarrell it with something cut rifled.
 
H.S precision is a lot like many of the custom gun makers,great quality but over priced.

i think the cooper is the best rifle as far as actually getting what you pay.they give you $2,100 worth of gun for $2,100

the H.S precision and the Hart give you 2,500 worth of gun for $3,750 and the Jerrett gives you 4,500 worth of gun for $8,000

the excaliber and jackson game by cooper are great synthetic rifles and the schnabel is a great from an appearence viewpoint
 
green_MTman - I have already bought a Remington 700 ADL stainless. I am now in the process of figuring out what stock I want to replace the factory tupperware.

I am about settled on a H-S Precision. Already ordered a Timney trigger, scope bases and rings, and a Nikon Prostaff 5 3.5-14x40.
 
My 270 is a Kimber 270WSM. I recommend the Kimbers and really like the WSM. Once you get up into the thousand dollar range I really think they are worth a look.
 
HS builds a good stock and I've used their tactical styles before. I don't care for bedding blocks as they tend to make things a little thicker than a stock without them. Some people won't consider them at all because of a poor buisness decision on who they got to endorse their product. So I don't usually mention them for fear of opening the proverbial can of worms.
 
I see. I didn't know that but I just read up on the company and the endorsement. While I don't agree with the actions of the man in question, that won't keep me from using an H-S product if it suits my needs.

I have a German K98 Mauser with Nazi markings that was most likely made under forced labor during WWII. So if I take issue with a bad endorsement that was quickly voided by the company, that seems a bit nit-picky in comparison.
 
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