25cal. vs. 22LR

.25 generally uses faster powders and so might be as fast from short barrels as .22LR. 50gr jacketed bullet would likely penetrate further than a 30-40gr unjacketed bullet. Centerfire ignition is more reliable.
Prices run $7/50 for .25 ball and $3/50 for good .22 ball. The ammo cost isn't the limiting factor to my amount of practice, so I'd go with .25 for the mini pistols. Then again, I draw the line at .32 as I have seen (lack of) performance of .25
 
My MK9 is my "backup" gun, with my .25 Jetfire as a "backup" to the MK9. I keep it loaded with FMJs (for maximum penetration). I don't expect anythng from my Jetfire beyond, say, 10-15 feet. But if you get closer than that, or if you grapple with me, I don't care what anybody says about this tiny "mouse cartridge"...if I jam that Jetfire into your eye socket or earhole and pull the trigger,you're FUBARed.

You hear stories about the lack of power in a .25 (bouncing bullets, etc.), but would anyone care to step in front of a .25 to prove me wrong? I didn't think so...
 
I thought I found the "best" .25 ACP loads...
These were Winchester rounds with a wee little BB on the nose...
Firing from my Astra Cub at a range of about 10 feet - it was a hoot to shoot. That little pistol was very reliable. I fired HUNDREDS of rounds through it...
One day I ran outof paper target. I found an old yello frisbee in a trash heep that was in perfect shape. Not a hole or scratch in it.
I propped the plastic disc up against a tree and stepped back to he 10 foot line.
POP! I fired a round into that disk.
WHAP! The bullet hit me in the chest!
THE FREAKING SLUG BOUNCED OFF THE PLASTIC!

Disc had a slight dent in it.

Bought a .45 the next day.
 
Sticking STRICTLY with the parameters you requested...HA!

If I were going to get one of those little pop guns, I'd get the .22 caliber. It is a hell of a lot cheaper to shoot and believe me, after you wonder why you bought this pop gun in the first place, you'll at least be glad you didn't waste any more money on .25 caliber ammo.

Defensive purposes, ammo costs, accuracy issues, etc. aside, they sure are cute little guns!

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.22 LR hollowpoint ammunition, including CCI Stinger and Magnum Performance Ballistics Quik-Shok doesn't expand/reliably fragment when fired from a 2.5 inch barrel. The simple fact of the matter is: when you shoot .22 LR ammunition from a .25 ACP sized handgun, you get .25 ACP-like terminal performance. See for yourself at http://www.firearmstactical.com/briefs27.htm

I own Berettas in both .22 LR and .25 ACP. For personal defense I recommend .25 ACP. Why? .22 LR misfires are difficult to clear. The rimfire firing pin swages a misfired case firmly to the breach of the barrel, and you must either pry the misfired cartridge out of the breech end with a pocket knife or insert something down the muzzle/bore to push the misfired cartridge out. With .25 ACP, a misfire can be quickly cleared by tipping-up the barrel.

If you desire a .22 caliber handgun for personal defense, choose a revolver. Misfires are easily dealt with -- you simply press the trigger again to rotate a new cartridge into firing position.



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George,
WOW!!
I'm going to do some experimenting with an old Frisbee tomorrow. As of right now, I'm taking the Speer hollow points out of the Jetfire and replacing them with Winchester 50gr. full metal jackets. I bought a box of that "expanding" jacket stuff when I bought the Beretta, but I didn't shoot it because I didn't like the looks of the rough projectile. You must have thought that someone else shot you when that bullet came back at you!
I guess that FMJ is truly the way to go with a .25ACP.

Will

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My Jetfire 950 .25 ACP blew right through an ENTIRE 1,500 page phonebook and into a wooden post. In the second test, it went through 800 pages of my old literature book. Both times the Hornady hp's were fully expanded. I seriously doubt this round will "bounce off heads."

Ben

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ill have to side with ben , did same test just about ,the hp is the first 2 rounds after that the next 2 are glasers then hardball for a sternum shot should i ever need my ankle .25 cal pistol.
 
I think both (specially in a truly mini gun) STINK!!! (...of course, somebody said this before). Really, they are better than nothing, and confortable to carry, but that's about it. I think I'm going to worry about this debate when I'm too old and frail. In the meantime is much better just to be aware, learn to punch (...and to avoid punches!), keep in shape to run, or carry a knife.
 
Neither is worthy of a self defense caliber but either is better than having no gun at all.

22LR has killed more people than any other but that's soley due to that it's shot by so many more folks.

At times, I CCW my S$W 317, a l'il 8-shot, 11 oz revolver. You actually forget that it's there.

Ignition problems? (yup, a bit concerned there) but a simple pull of the trigger "clears" the shooter as if it never happened.

We've popped beer (oops!) pop cans ;) at ~75 yards pretty reliably.

My fave woods gun.

Besides. Any auto spits out 2X "evidence" = the brass & the bullet. A revolver solves 1/2 that right away & a 22LR bullet is notorious for deforming, thereby removing the rifling marks, etc.

Gimme the 22 & make it a 317.
 
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