25-06 Capability

[Lloyd Smale]

yup radon there was a time when 3840s and 4440s were the guns used on them and you can still read articles from back in the day when people raved on the new and very powerful 3030 and how well it did on elk. Way to much store is put in what it takes to kill an animal these days. To many people preach what they learn on the internet and not many preach from actuall killing experince in the field. Dont get me wrong you will see me hunt deer with mag rifles too. Do i feel there needed? Nope. but i just would get bored using the same gun all the time. If this was 1900 and the 2506 was just invented gun writers and hunters would be singing its praises from the hignest mountain. I can still remember when roy weatherby took his 257 all over the world kiling about every animal on the planet cleanly with it and today we have nos partitions and barnes x bullets with clearly put guns like that in a differnt league then they were in with the old bullets he used. Personaly i think anyone who tells you a 2506 wont kill an elk cleanly is blowing smoke or just isnt a good enough rifleman to put a bullet where it belongs.

 

[IDAHO83501]

no problem

A 25-06 with 115-120 gr. premuim bullet will do just fine on a moose as long as you are within 150 yards or so. The hide on a moose is not as hard as you might think. Yes they are large,,,very large,,, but their hides are closer to the thickness of a deer than an elk. That being said, personally I would stick with my 7mm Rem. mag or my 300 Win . mag.,,,but by no means do you need a huge caliber to down a moose at a reasonable distance.

 

[natman]

yup radon there was a time when 3840s and 4440s were the guns used on them and you can still read articles from back in the day when people raved on the new and very powerful 3030 and how well it did on elk. Way to much store is put in what it takes to kill an animal these days. To many people preach what they learn on the internet and not many preach from actuall killing experince in the field. Dont get me wrong you will see me hunt deer with mag rifles too. Do i feel there needed? Nope. but i just would get bored using the same gun all the time. If this was 1900 and the 2506 was just invented gun writers and hunters would be singing its praises from the hignest mountain.

Guess what? It's not 1900. Do you still drive a Model T? Still hand cranking to start?

Once again, the 25-06 can do it. It's just that there are better choices available.

Personaly i think anyone who tells you a 2506 wont kill an elk cleanly is blowing smoke

Who exactly has said the 25-06 won't do it? No one in this thread. It's just that there are better choices available. There are lots of things that you can't control when hunting. The weather. The game. The wind. But there is one thing you have complete control of - the rifle and ammunition you use.

or just isnt a good enough rifleman to put a bullet where it belongs.

Nothing promotes adult discussion like insulting everyone who doesn't agree with you.

 

[Old Grump]

Guess what? It's not 1900. Do you still drive a Model T? Still hand cranking to start?

Once again, the 25-06 can do it. It's just that there are better choices available.

Guess what, the 25-06 will do it, and dead is dead whether you shoot the critter with a round from 1865, 1958 or hot off the assembly line yesterday. There would not be so many choices if everybody had the same taste and only judged the worth of a firearm and it's ammunition by ballistic tables and FBI reports.

I enjoy shooting my 25-20 and my .348 and my great grandfathers old 12 gauge as much as I enjoy shooting my NM 1911A!.

Okay the 12 gauge not so much, that straight stock single shot gun knocks the sinuses clean and is not fun to shoot but it has nostalgia value.

Everybody sure does get all excited, my goodness. I thought the whole idea was to have fun. If it wasn't we should trade our guns in for medication and just sit in a happy place getting mellow.

 

[FrankenMauser]

Know the rifle.
Know the prey.
Know the load.

That's all that matters.

If you know your cartridge/bullet/rifle combination is appropriate for your prey, what does some one else's opinion matter?

I am one of "those" people that wish the .25-06 would vanish from the face of the Earth, but I don't call people idiots for buying one. It's their choice. It's their money. It's their rifle.

Why am I one of "those" people? It's not really the cartridge's fault. It's these ridiculous discussions. Nothing brings out the emotional responses from owners and 'haters', like the .25-06.

I'm even a fan of the quarter bore: .257 Roberts is on my top ten cartridge wish list.

But, if you want to see a heated discussion... Just bring up the .25-06.

Arguing that, "my cartridge is bigger than your cartridge," only had any real merit when Black Powder was the sole propellant. With smokeless powder, it's all about component selection -- choose the right bullet for the job, and let the cartridge work its magic.

 

[taylorce1]

.270 discussions bring out a lot of emotions as well. I'll still state there are better choices for game larger than deer than the .25-06. You can use it and it will more than likely get the job done but IMO it isn't the right tool for the job.

 

[jmr40]

Wouldn't be my first choice, but with the modern bullets available today I'd think it will do just fine as long as range is kept reasonable.

 

[raktrak]

The 220 Swift or the 25-06 or the 300 winny

Jeeze guys I like the Swift for hogs and Deer--------I consider my 25-06 a heavy hitter but not like my 300 Winny. Place the shot and clean the animal. If I could have only 1 rifle it woud be the 30-06, or the 35 Whelen.

 

[Jason_G]

I don't shoot the caliber, but I'm sure it's capable. I don't think it would be ideal though. I know a lot of folks that are totally enamored with the .25-06, but I just think "barrel burner" every time I hear the cartridge mentioned. Maybe that's unfounded criticism on my part, but it just seems like it would be a very throat-eroding round.

Jason

 

[sc928porsche]

I suppose that if you hunt elk with a 243, then the 25-06 is ok for moose. Still, I wouldn"t recommend doing either. I have taken elk with a 25-06, but those shots were fairly close and the animals provided me with a good broadside.

 

[Mike / Tx]

WOW for a minute there I thought I was reading one of the .223 for deer threads...

This said, from my perspective, if the hunter is capable with the firearm, and uses a proper weight for caliber and of decent construction for the job, there are a LOT of calibers capable of take a moose cleanly. I believe that what a person shoots "best", is better than what someone else thinks they should use.

I see a LOT of folks at the ranges with rifles that are simply WAY too much for their abilities to shoot properly. Even at 100yards they flinch, and pull shots off to one side or the other, all the while jerking the trigger anticipating the recoil. All this, and most aren't even shooting magnum calibers, just what the friend, or fellow at the gun shop, or the latest magazine said was "the best thing going". For some a .270 is more than they should be shooting but this doesn't mean they aren't capable shots, or that they shouldn't be hunting, simply they either need to shoot more, or get something with a bit less oomph, that they can shoot more accurately.

I have, and shoot a number of calibers, one being a 25-06AI, I had the standard version but gave it to my daughter. Of them all that particular rifle was simply a walking death stick for anything I chose to put it to task on. The main reasons are it is accurate, has little recoil, and plenty of energy with most weight bullets to get the job done. With most of the 115 through 120gr bullets, it has plenty of power to easily disrupt the internal workings of even the biggest critters roaming around the woods and prairies of N. America.

Yes there are bigger calibers, and they drive bigger bullets, and make bigger holes in stuff. And if I were hunting something that might hunt back I would be inclined to look into them pretty hard.

Bottom line is being comfortable shooting what ever caliber you choose, being accurate with it, and confident enough to put it where it needs to go when the time arises. It does neither the person behind the trigger nor the game in the scope, any better to shoot a large caliber heavy bullet into a non vital area, and it won't kill things any quicker than a properly placed shot through the vitals from something a bit smaller and possibly faster. The key is and always will be putting the shot where it needs to go.

 

[Lloyd Smale]

looks to me like your the one with pantys in a knot. I never accused anyone here of anything. My point was simple. Way to much bs is spread about how much power you need to bring down a given animal. Im not an expert on elk or moose. Ive shot them but not alot. I have though shot truck loads of deer with the 2506. I do crop damage shooting and betwee two of us take up to a 100 deer a year. a good amount of them with 2506s so i do know a bit about the ability of the round. Kind of curious where your opinion comes from. How many animals have you killed with it? Or do you do your killing with a keyboard.

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yup radon there was a time when 3840s and 4440s were the guns used on them and you can still read articles from back in the day when people raved on the new and very powerful 3030 and how well it did on elk. Way to much store is put in what it takes to kill an animal these days. To many people preach what they learn on the internet and not many preach from actuall killing experince in the field. Dont get me wrong you will see me hunt deer with mag rifles too. Do i feel there needed? Nope. but i just would get bored using the same gun all the time. If this was 1900 and the 2506 was just invented gun writers and hunters would be singing its praises from the hignest mountain.

Guess what? It's not 1900. Do you still drive a Model T? Still hand cranking to start?

Once again, the 25-06 can do it. It's just that there are better choices available.

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Personaly i think anyone who tells you a 2506 wont kill an elk cleanly is blowing smoke

Who exactly has said the 25-06 won't do it? No one in this thread. It's just that there are better choices available. There are lots of things that you can't control when hunting. The weather. The game. The wind. But there is one thing you have complete control of - the rifle and ammunition you use.


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or just isnt a good enough rifleman to put a bullet where it belongs.

Nothing promotes adult discussion like insulting everyone who doesn't agree with you.

 

[Art Eatman]

I take off a few days to do a smidgen of dove hunting and come back to a food fight in the day care center? Yuck.