.22LR
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Not meant to be a critical comment. I'm curious about how you handled the transfer. What is the normal procedure for purchasing a handgun in your state and in relation to the Feds?
Did you just walk outside, pay the guy and walk away with the gun? If so, though it is probably not an issue for you, I wonder what the records say about who owns that gun. Is it still registered to the other fellow?
The reason I ask is:
I bought a pistol some years ago and gave it to a friend who really liked it. He ended up in NYC. He never registered the gun - because there was no paperwork. Unfortunately, he was killed in a MC accident (Limo driver, illegal turn in front of bike). His firearms had to be surrendered to the police. Most were registered. I had to scramble to get that gun back as all records would have shown me as the owner.
Pete
Not meant to be a critical comment. I'm curious about how you handled the transfer. What is the normal procedure for purchasing a handgun in your state and in relation to the Feds?
Did you just walk outside, pay the guy and walk away with the gun? If so, though it is probably not an issue for you, I wonder what the records say about who owns that gun. Is it still registered to the other fellow?
The reason I ask is:
I bought a pistol some years ago and gave it to a friend who really liked it. He ended up in NYC. He never registered the gun - because there was no paperwork. Unfortunately, he was killed in a MC accident (Limo driver, illegal turn in front of bike). His firearms had to be surrendered to the police. Most were registered. I had to scramble to get that gun back as all records would have shown me as the owner.
Pete
My uncle and I normally shoot for fun when we shoot .22's. So trick shots and the like are pretty normal. If you can't hit it on the first shot, no ranging the shot in, it's really not that impressive. So we take our time. Ever tried to hit a CD from 100 yards with just a red dot, and only 1 shot? Offhand, outdoors? It's definitely not real easy, especially when it's windy. How about 10 aimed shots at crabapples offhand in 15 seconds? With all the random stuff we do, we're lucky to get off 100 rds in an hour. It's not about the amount of lead you put downrange with .22's, it's about who gets bragging rights, and who has to buy the beer after not being able to pick off an apple at 200m with one shot. Suspended in a tree upside down. Naked.
J/K. But still, I go to the range with my 9mm, and .45 for practice. I go to the back 40 for fun.And Pete, I don't know where the OP lives, but here in NH, I can just sell you a gun if you want one. Don't get me wrong, I would never sell a gun to someone I didn't personally know, but I could. I would just get a bill of sale, and that would absolve me. I checked with a lawyer before I sold my old KP944.
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I'll second the motion. In most of the free states, handguns aren't registered. The 4473 you filled out when you bought new doesn't get even get "filed" per se, it simply gets kept for XX years and can be looked up or referred to (as I understand it.)
In Ohio, the law states that you can not sell a handgun to anyone whom you know to be a prohibited buyer (due to age or criminal record or intent to do harm) but otherwise, it's completely legal.
When you cross state lines, it gets illegal. (and the laws get progressively more stupid)
And on the topic of .22LR prices, here's something that I'm still having trouble digesting. Back when I was in HS in the late 80's, I bought a lot of rimfire because I was shooting a lot of it and because Mom was financing my shooting. So every time it went on sale, we bought it. And I still have some left, about 1,500 rounds of Federal Lightning in the blue box with the lightning bolt right on the box. It's 40grain lead solid. It's your basic bulk ammo... works pretty well but it's not immune to the occasional dud.
Anyway, here's the point. This stuff was on sale back in '88 or '89 and even then we were paying $17 a brick for it. You can do even better than that TODAY and it's 20 years later.
That's hard to believe.
carguychris
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Actually, the Model 22 is a .45ACP N frame fixed-sight revolver also known as the Model 1950 Army. The Model 22A is a .22LR semi-auto.
Yes,we walked outside and drove to the bank on the corner and i withdrew the money from my account and i paid him in the parking lot.That could be kinda risky if the situation wasnt as it was.It was a good part of town wich is more upper class and not in a crime area.Not that doesnt warrent caution.The seller did ask me if i was legally allowed to purchase handguns and if i planned to use it illegally.This was a younger guy but seemed to have his head on straight for being in his 20's.
Of course im allowed to purchase handguns and only plan to use it for target practice.
In Ohio the laws arent very restrictive about buying and selling handguns.Wich is nice imo,but does make it easier for criminals to obtain them als
f course they could get one anyway if they wanted one,its just one hurdle they dont have to bypass.
I really want to take the gun to some land my family owns in WV so i can not be restricted by range rules and other people.Paper targets work but not as fun as stuff you find laying around.
Of course im allowed to purchase handguns and only plan to use it for target practice.
In Ohio the laws arent very restrictive about buying and selling handguns.Wich is nice imo,but does make it easier for criminals to obtain them als
f course they could get one anyway if they wanted one,its just one hurdle they dont have to bypass.I really want to take the gun to some land my family owns in WV so i can not be restricted by range rules and other people.Paper targets work but not as fun as stuff you find laying around.
I didnt get a reciept,and dont think it was really needed.
Not to say that wont happen,but i have thought about it some.
First the clerk at Gander Mtn could testify what he saw as could security camera's in the banks parking lot where i gave him the money.
Secondly the guy said he was selling it to get a bigger ccw weapon as he used the 22A to take the course with.Besides how he looked and acted and wasnt a thug type,he seemed very honest.
Contrary to my preconceptions, shooting a .22LR pistol (Ruger Mark III) is more fun that the law allows.
I always considered a .22 to be inferior, one step above shooting a BB gun. But ammo costs made me take a look and, man, I'm glad it did. It has noise, recoil, full semiauto action, great accuracy, and is certainly no wimp gun. I'll be buying more .22s in the future. The next will probably be a Ruger Single Six .22 LR/WMR convertible.
I always considered a .22 to be inferior, one step above shooting a BB gun. But ammo costs made me take a look and, man, I'm glad it did. It has noise, recoil, full semiauto action, great accuracy, and is certainly no wimp gun. I'll be buying more .22s in the future. The next will probably be a Ruger Single Six .22 LR/WMR convertible.
.22 is the best thing that's ever come to handguns caliber wise!They shoot just as far and fast as a 9mm,do the job of moving a spinner,making a "ting" and putting holes through paper.Anything bigger for target shooting is a waste of space.Bigger guns are for self defense,but you can really shoot up a .22 all day.I keep my .357 clean as a whistle and always loaded,but I can go 500 rounds without cleaning my .22 and just throw it in the closet after shooting all day
I went to the range today and shot 25 rounds threw my 1911 and about 350 rounds threw the .22A
I stopped shooting once my fingers started hurting from loading the mags so many times.
I too kinda wrote off the .22 caliber as being useless,besides small game hunting.But i was definetly wrong.My reason for not taking them to serously was the .22 rifle is so muffled and sounds weak almost like a bb/pellet gun.But the .22 pistol is almost as loud and great sounding almost at 9mm bangs.
I bought 1100 rounds when i got the pistol wich was $50 as stated before and i still have about 60% of that ammo still and ive been to the range twice.So i do beleive i may very well be shooting all i want for $10 in ammo for each range trip.
My next purchase is gonna be a small 9mm or another .22
I need a small 9mm for ccw reason and its ability to not be so expensive at the range.But i really want to get the P22
I stopped shooting once my fingers started hurting from loading the mags so many times.
I too kinda wrote off the .22 caliber as being useless,besides small game hunting.But i was definetly wrong.My reason for not taking them to serously was the .22 rifle is so muffled and sounds weak almost like a bb/pellet gun.But the .22 pistol is almost as loud and great sounding almost at 9mm bangs.
I bought 1100 rounds when i got the pistol wich was $50 as stated before and i still have about 60% of that ammo still and ive been to the range twice.So i do beleive i may very well be shooting all i want for $10 in ammo for each range trip.
My next purchase is gonna be a small 9mm or another .22
I need a small 9mm for ccw reason and its ability to not be so expensive at the range.But i really want to get the P22
That's funny, my brother had the same thing happen at G.M., but it was for a handgun, and some odd Swiss old army rilfe that shot an odd round like 7mm I think.
He got the rifle for almost free because he gave the guy his asking price on the handgun which was very cheap. Then the guy sold him ammo for the rifle from his house for very cheap. He just had to drive across town for it.
Elvishead- Some times we all get lucky and meet other honest,appreciative,like minded,who are looking to sell without a lot of hassle and dont wanna wait until they find the "right" buyer who will pay close to new gun prices.
One thing that made it easier for me this was in one of the best areas of town,more upscale and lower crime area.Had it been at my reguler shop i buy from wich is great but located in one of the worst ghetto area's id never even think about it.
The funny thing is since i only get paid once a month buying this gun and the red dot ill be broke for the next 3 weeks.Ill live and be ok as i have good credit with the bank of "Mom and Dad" but its a small price to pay to have another gun,but let alone one so cheap and fun to shoot.
My plan was to save money this month and then next month buy a 22,at least i tried to be responsible.
One thing that made it easier for me this was in one of the best areas of town,more upscale and lower crime area.Had it been at my reguler shop i buy from wich is great but located in one of the worst ghetto area's id never even think about it.
The funny thing is since i only get paid once a month buying this gun and the red dot ill be broke for the next 3 weeks.Ill live and be ok as i have good credit with the bank of "Mom and Dad" but its a small price to pay to have another gun,but let alone one so cheap and fun to shoot.
My plan was to save money this month and then next month buy a 22,at least i tried to be responsible.
Stevie-Ray
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Why not? I shoot my Stevens bolt-action rifle at 100 yards, rested, and take my time to get perfect groups. Very relaxing and I can get practically all day out of $5 rather than 10. Putting as much lead downrange as you can is certainly not the only thing .22LR is good for.
Sounds like someone lives behind the socialist curtain.
What does that mean exactly? I'm imagining you convincing the widow or family to give you the gun that you sold previously. Did you pay them after you "scrambled to get that gun back"? Perhaps my imagination is running wild.
If someone asks me what happened to a gun that I sold, I simply tell them I sold it. No different than a refrigerator, TV, or hammer... except of course that I have constitutional right to keep the guns.
NYC
Kmar:
Interesting questions and attitude.
At the time, I was living in NYC. Does that help? The laws there are VERY restrictive. If the City had discovered that I had given a gun - now unregistered - to some one, I would have lost my license, had my guns confiscated and could easily have ended up, if not in jail, in a lengthy and expensive court experience.
" I'm imagining you convincing the widow or family to give you the gun that you sold previously. Did you pay them after you "scrambled to get that gun back"? Perhaps my imagination is running wild."
Yes, your imagination is running wild. And it's more than a little bit offensive. What makes you think that I sold him the gun in the first place? What did I say in my earlier post?
Despite that, I did, in fact, offer them and paid them a better than fair price for the piece (more than I originally paid for it). He was a good friend and would have done the same.
Pete
BTW - since we are already off topic - "the socialist curtain"??
What does socialism have to do with this?
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Kmar:
Interesting questions and attitude.
At the time, I was living in NYC. Does that help? The laws there are VERY restrictive. If the City had discovered that I had given a gun - now unregistered - to some one, I would have lost my license, had my guns confiscated and could easily have ended up, if not in jail, in a lengthy and expensive court experience.
" I'm imagining you convincing the widow or family to give you the gun that you sold previously. Did you pay them after you "scrambled to get that gun back"? Perhaps my imagination is running wild."
Yes, your imagination is running wild. And it's more than a little bit offensive. What makes you think that I sold him the gun in the first place? What did I say in my earlier post?
Despite that, I did, in fact, offer them and paid them a better than fair price for the piece (more than I originally paid for it). He was a good friend and would have done the same.
Pete
BTW - since we are already off topic - "the socialist curtain"??
What does socialism have to do with this?
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