22lr Pistols

I have had experience with both the ruger and the browning. The ruger in my opinion is a more reliable gun while the browning is a more accurate gun. A local NRA handgun instructor has ruger and browning 22 autos for training purposes. He has told me that the ruger can go over a thousand rounds without cleaning and still keep going. The browning, however, needs cleaning after 300 rds according to him or it will start jamming.
 
NOT AGAIN

Some one had to bring up the Ruger .22LR... WHAT A PIECE OF SH$T :barf:

Reasons why my Ruger MKII Sucks..
JAMS
Doesn't Feed
Doesn't extract empty cases
Magazines kill the fingers
It is ugly

I swear to God I want to put my Ruger 22LR MKII 10 yds down the range and shot at it with real guns ( My Sig Pro 2034 .357sig and my Colt target match 22LR.) I will probably just break down and sell it to a pawn shop for $20 and buy a box of .357sig rounds for my baby (Sig Pro 2034) !!!!

Any who. Ruger sucks.... Buy colt or Browning or something other than Ruger and you will be a lot more happier. I think the other people on this forum are paid by Bill Ruger to lie for his Sh$$tty company.

Sig Pro .357
 
I've also been trying to decide which of these pistols to get. I think they are both reliable, accurate, well-made pistols with only very slight differences in these areas. I don't have hands-on experience with the Rugers, but I really can't believe that pistols that have been so popular for so long can have major problems. The Buckmarks also seem well-proven, though they don't have quite as long a track record. I have a friend with a Buckmark camper (the lowest-end model). I like it a lot. It has had many hundreds of rounds put through it and I doubt that it has ever been cleaned. It still works reliably. The one thing that the Rugers offer that Browning doesn't is stainless steel and polymer construction. I'm tempted to get a stainless 22/45 for the no-maintenance finish. But I still think I'll go with the Buckmark instead - I just like the way it looks, feels, and shoots. If the Buckmark came in stainless, there would be no contest.

Doug
 
$HITTY RUGERS

IF you ask around you will find that many folks use Ruger guns for testing.

Reason? -- they're $hitty.

I AM NOT A MORON (and Ruger pays me nothing; I pay them)
 
Ruger jamatic and flyer supreme

I've had 2 Rugers (Mark 1 and 11) the first(1969)wouldn't cycle because of unfinished edges on the stampings. The second would not hold a 12 inch group at 15 yards. Although I've heard good things about the target models I will stick with my Buckmark and S&W 41.
:)
mac
 
I have owned both Ruger 22s and Buckmarks. I prefer the feel of the Buckmark's grip angle. I don't like the feel of the plastic Ruger 22/45 grip frame or the sharply angled Luger like metal framed Rugers. I shoot the Buckmark a lot at an automated steel plate indoor range. It has been completely trouble free in extended firing sessions, surpassing both the Ruger and a S&W 41 in high volume fire reliability. The Ruger is probably more durable, but I doubt you could wear out either a Ruger or Buckmark in your lifetime. If Ruger made a steel framed version of the 22/45, I would reconsider. Until then I'm sticking with the Buckmark. Watch-Six
 
I have both. I prefer the Ruger. I have the model 512 n stainless with the bull barrel. Good luck on your choice.
 
Well for better or worse I made a trade today. The friend I mentioned in my original post decided that he wanted to sell his Ruger 22 (stainless, 5+inch bull barrel target model). He wants a snub 38 which I happen to have. So to make a long story short, I traded my Taurus 85 for his Ruger. We will be doing the transfer tomorrow. The first thing I'd like to do with this gun is break it down for a good cleaning, but I don't know if I can get up the nerve. I was talking to a person at the local gunshop today who has a Ruger which he loves. He said he broke it down once and he'll never do it again. He had to take it to a gunsmith to get it back together. The smith told him that he didn't really think the Rugers ever needed disassembled because you can clean them pretty well without breaking them down. Also thanks for all the replies. It sounds like you can't go wrong with either the Ruger or the Browning. After reading all of the responses I was leaning toward the Ruger, so when this opportunity presented itself I jumped on it. So what do you all think, good trade?
 
In a .22 pistol (especially a plinker) the Beretta 87 is very nice and 100% reliable in my experience. Quite a bit more expensive than either of the two others, but well worth it.
 
OK, so it looks like it's this way:

Go for the Ruger if:

1. You'll be putting a lot of rounds through between cleanings, or you're lax about cleaning. And,
2. You aren't so much concerned with accuracy.


Go for the Buckmark if:

1. You intend to keep it clean, and
2. You want good accuracy.


As for me, I want the following from my guns:

1. Fun!
2. Customer Service (A lost commodity these days.)
3. Reasonable price (Haven't found any money trees.)
4. Accuracy (If it won't go where you point it, why bother?)
5. Reliability (Malfunctioning guns are not only frustrating but could be a safety hazard.)
6. Good looks (Sorry, but I just can't abide an ugly gun!)

So, since I try to keep my guns quite clean, and I've heard good things about their customer service, I chose the Browning. It's more accurate than my Marlin Model 60 rifles! Besides, the Ruger is butt-ugly! (And, I admit, I'm partial to Browning.)

I'm going to try an experiment: I'm going to keep track of how many rounds I put through my Buckmark and not clean it until I get to 2000, or it jams unmercifully, whichever comes first. We'll see how it does.
 
JM Browning

John Browning did not design the High Standard or the Buckmark (1980s). He did design the blowback action. I believe the first production pistol of Browning design was the Colt Pre-Woodsman, which became the Woodsman line. Wonderful guns. Thank you, John Moses.
 
There are some very silly people on these forums... :rolleyes:

Okay, back to business. The Ruger isn't all that difficult to field strip and re-assemble: like I said my girlfriend has one. She cleans it after almost every time we go shooting. She's 19 and the Ruger is her first firearm. So all you macho gun-gurus, are you going to tell me a 19 year old Finnish girl who is new to firearms can field strip a weapon you can't? :D ;) There are some tricks to field stripping the Ruger but if you follow instructions (there are several good ones on-line) it's far from impossible.

Personally I still prefer my Buckmark (mostly because of the grip angle) but both are still very good firearms. It really does boil down to personal preference and nothing else.
 
Both guns have great reputations. I finally ended up buying a Ruger 22/45. I'm very pleased with the gun. About 500 rounds so far and no jams. Very accurate also.
 
I am in love with the CZ 75 and its Kadet 22 Coneversion Kit. I have owned and fired a lot of 22 handguns and the Kadet is the only that holds my interest. If you own a CZ75 I adise you to buy a conversion unit. If you don't own a CZ75 I advise you to buy one and also buy the conversion unit. I am sure it is the best thing out there for the money. Regards, Richard
 
Well it's official. As I sit here typing I'm looking at my new (used) stainless 5 1/2 bull barell Ruger Mark II. I'll be taking it out to the range tomorrow to see how it shoots. Spyder2 I printed the directions for disassembling the Ruger. Thanks again everyone for the all the good feedback.
 
Problably the most reliable 22 I own is the Mark II. (I also have a S&W 41 which also hasnt malfunctioned, but I shoot the Ruger twice as much).

Many Federal agencies have at least one MKII in their armory (usually supressed). They can afford ANY type of 22 (with your tax dollars)! Ruger MKIIs are great!
 
Just got back from the range with my Ruger Mark II. Overall I'm pretty impressed. Accuracy was pretty good considering how lousy I was shooting today. Feeding was perfect (at least 300-400 rounds. The only consistent problem I had were some fairly regular misfires with Federal Bulk Ammo. Using Remington and Winchester ammo misfires were rare. I didn't bother cleaning the gun before taking it to the range because I wanted to see how well it would do in the dirty condition it was in and I figured I could run my boresnake through it if I had any problems. As I mentioned the friend from whom I got this pistol has not ever given it a really good cleaning. So far the Ruger seems to be living up to its great reputation. Now I'll give it a good cleaning. Maybe even a full takedown;) .
 
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