DennisRL84
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well if you are looking to give ammo away I am always a viable taker.
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.223 Wolf and TULAMMO
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Threads like these are always full of personal opinions so ill say If it suits my purposes and it shoots alright ill shoot it especialy if it is half the price of some other ammo whose quality is not always indicated by its price. For the purposes of this ammo thread reguarding these brands in general i would like to ask is it true that this ammo is steel jacketed? I know that jackets of softer metals will not damage a gun bore but i am almost sure that steel will.
It is steel cases (you knew that part) and steel jacketed bullets with a thin copper plating. I thought they were gilding metal until I checked with a magnet.
ETA: The cases appear to be reloadable. I just deprimed and resized a few, and the neck tension on a bullet is good. They probably won't last as long as a brass case before the neck splits, but ought to be good for 2 or 3 uses.
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Only problem I had with Wolf is a squib. Didn't fire, must've had little to no powder. Treated like a hangfire until I ejected and noticed the ejected case was empty. The bullet stuck in the barrel. Good thing it happened to me and not anyone else that may have been using my rifle while we were out.
Disaster waiting to happen in the hands of someone who wouldn't have known what to do.
Watch the cheap ****.
Disaster waiting to happen in the hands of someone who wouldn't have known what to do.
Watch the cheap ****.
Crankgrinder
New member
we all know that the barrels rifling cuts into the copper jackets of bullets in order to produce its grip, i guess one will have to experiment some to find out whether or not this thin copper plating over that steel is worth a ****or not
There is nothing wrong with steel cased or lacquer coated steel case ammo. Many countrys have manufactured such ammo to include USA during WWII when there was a shortage of copper. The Russians have exported mega-tons of this stuff all over the world.
I see people blasting this stuff perpetually at the ranges I frequent. I too have shot plenty of the Russian ammo in Mini 14a and ARs with no more problem that you would see with domestic stuff.
The stuff is ridiculously inexpensive in comparision to most of the domestic stuff. I plan to buy more.
I see people blasting this stuff perpetually at the ranges I frequent. I too have shot plenty of the Russian ammo in Mini 14a and ARs with no more problem that you would see with domestic stuff.
The stuff is ridiculously inexpensive in comparision to most of the domestic stuff. I plan to buy more.
Follow-up
I also shot a few reloads (62 grain FMJ with 25 grains of Varget) and a few American Eagle XM855's (62 grain green tips) and the Tulammo was not really distinguishable from the others with regard to the feel or the sound or how far it threw the brass. I didn't have any XM193's to compare.
So if I find it for sale at $4.50 a box again, I'll probably buy more Tula .223. But not necessarily a lot more.
BTW, half of those reloads today were with reusing the steel cases. They reloaded and shot just fine, but I need to chamfer the inside case mouths if I ever load steel again so they don't scratch up the bullets.
I shot the rest of that box of Tulammo .223 today after having greased the bolt, slide, spring, etc. of the Mini. No jams this time; all the rounds ejected cleanly and landed about 8 or 10 feet away. One time it didn't load the next round. I don't know if that was the ammo or the magazine or a dirty chamber in a gun that's still tight, or maybe something else. So my previous poor field test report was my fault rather than the ammo's -- the gun needed lubricationme said:I tried half a box of Herter's .223 steel case ammo today. (The headstamp says it's Tulammo.) No misfires, and it was accurate enough, but it was loaded so light it wouldn't cycle the action on my [new] Mini 14. One out of ten did eject and feed a new round. Some of the others ejected barely and didn't load a new round, and the rest hung up in the ejection port.
I also shot a few reloads (62 grain FMJ with 25 grains of Varget) and a few American Eagle XM855's (62 grain green tips) and the Tulammo was not really distinguishable from the others with regard to the feel or the sound or how far it threw the brass. I didn't have any XM193's to compare.
So if I find it for sale at $4.50 a box again, I'll probably buy more Tula .223. But not necessarily a lot more.
BTW, half of those reloads today were with reusing the steel cases. They reloaded and shot just fine, but I need to chamfer the inside case mouths if I ever load steel again so they don't scratch up the bullets.
we all know that the barrels rifling cuts into the copper jackets of bullets in order to produce its grip, i guess one will have to experiment some to find out whether or not this thin copper plating over that steel is worth a ****or not
No waiting required. Copper plated steel has been used as jacket material for decades. It does no harm to the barrel. Throat erosion or cleaning rod damage will take out the rifling before the steel jacket does.